James Bond Warned FDR About Pearl Harbor!

[rightwinger]

James Bond warned JFK about Dallas

Say what?

It was a tip from Moneypenny
She was close with Jackie

 

[whitehall]

James Bond warned JFK about Dallas

Say what?

It was a tip from Moneypenny
She was close with Jackie

Wow, so much energy deflecting the point of a historical WW2 related discussion. Is it typical of the crazy left these days?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Experts in Naval Intelligence had decoded the Japanese diplomatic messages and only a few people had access to the decoded information named "magic". Commanders in areas likely to be attacked including the Philippines and Hawaii had no idea of "magic" and they unknowingly depended on COS Marshall for information. The problem was that COS Marshall was so concerned about preserving the secrecy of the "magic" intercepts that he was reluctant to share what he learned. On the morning of 12/7/41 the military message center (conveniently?) went down and Marshall held the crucial information that may have saved the thousand Sailors on the Arizona for crucial hours but he was reluctant to use the phone and sent the warning of imminent attack by Western Union telegraph which arrived the same time as the Japanese bombers. Marshall managed to place the blame on front line commanders Short and Kimmel for his own negligence

Nay, nay, Whitey….you provide too neutral an excuse for Roosevelt. True, he was a mediocre intellect, but he was more than predisposed toward Stalin, the Soviets and communism as government. True, his administration was filled with Soviet agents who needed a war with Japan, he was willing to accept same to keep the Soviet Union alive…..he expected an attack, but he didn’t expect it to be of the magnitude that it was.

Poor Kimmel.....just assigned after Richardson was kicked upstairs.

 

[rightwinger]

James Bond warned JFK about Dallas

Say what?

It was a tip from Moneypenny
She was close with Jackie

Wow, so much energy deflecting the point of a historical WW2 related discussion. Is it typical of the crazy left these days?

Did you ever hear the one where James Bond warned Lincoln about Fords Theater?

 

[Sunni Man]

Many times to Churchill's chagrin, FDR would cave in to Stalin's demands.

Which set the stage for the communist partition of eastern Europe and the decades long Cold War with the western nations. ....

 

[anynameyouwish]

James Bond warned JFK about Dallas

Say what?

It was a tip from Moneypenny
She was close with Jackie

Wow, so much energy deflecting the point of a historical WW2 related discussion. Is it typical of the crazy left these days?

Did you ever hear the one where James Bond warned Lincoln about Fords Theater?

That was MY fault. Bond told me to tell Abe but I forgot. Oops.

My Bad.

 

[PoliticalChic]

James Bond warned Bush about 9-11

It's tempting to divert to the Clinton negligence that led to 9-11 but the subject is FDR's incompetence.

One should recognize that the attempt to alter the subject by the Left's acolytes means that they point they wish to hide is painful to them.

 

[rightwinger]

Many times to Churchill's chagrin, FDR would cave in to Stalin's demands.

Which set the stage for the communist partition of eastern Europe and the decades long Cold War with the western nations. ....

The Soviets already occupied those countries. Nothing FDR did would get them out

 

[PoliticalChic]

James Bond warned JFK about Dallas

Sadly the CIA hasn't been on top of any major event in the 20th century but that's another story. COS George Marshall was credited with having an almost photographic memory but he couldn't remember where he was during the early morning hours of arguably the most important date in his career on 12/7/1941 when his people were frantically looking for him. Subsequent investigations were politically slanted and Marshall got a pass while front line commanders (with the possible exception of MacArthur) were blamed.

When Marshall found out about the attack, he made the following statement:

"Pearl Harbor was the only installation we had anywhere that was reasonably well equipped. Therefore we were not worried about it. In our opinion, the commanders had been alerted. In our opinion there was nothing more we could give them....In our opinion it was the one place that had within itself to put up a reasonable defense. The only place we had any assurance about was Hawaii."
John Koster, "Operation Snow: How a Soviet Mole in FDR's White House Triggered Pearl Harbor," p. 356



How many lies can you find in that brief statement?

 

[rightwinger]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

 

[Sunni Man]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

Why are you trying to derail the thread with your nonsense posts? ...

 

[PoliticalChic]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

Why are you trying to derail the thread with your nonsense posts? ...

You know why.....


Of course, now I'll have to pen a few more posts revealing truths about their lord F. Delano Roosevelt....

 

[Camp]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

Why are you trying to derail the thread with your nonsense posts? ...

The thread is ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense. As usual, important pertinent facts are omitted.

 

[PoliticalChic]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

Why are you trying to derail the thread with your nonsense posts? ...

The thread is ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense. As usual, important pertinent facts are omitted.

Everything in it is documented.
Not a single thing you can refute....hence, the whining of a stuck pig, you, with "is not....issssssss noooottttttttt!!!"

 

[Camp]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

Why are you trying to derail the thread with your nonsense posts? ...

The thread is ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense. As usual, important pertinent facts are omitted.

Everything in it is documented.
Not a single thing you can refute....hence, the whining of a stuck pig, you, with "is not....issssssss noooottttttttt!!!"

You misinform by omission. You simply leave out facts that make your nonsense look obviously like nonsense ro anyone with knowledge on the issue. This thread is a good example.

 

[PoliticalChic]

James Bond tried to warn FDR but the message was intercepted by SPECTRE while Bond was being tortured by a “laser”

Why are you trying to derail the thread with your nonsense posts? ...

The thread is ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense. As usual, important pertinent facts are omitted.

Everything in it is documented.
Not a single thing you can refute....hence, the whining of a stuck pig, you, with "is not....issssssss noooottttttttt!!!"

You misinform by omission. You simply leave out facts that make your nonsense look obviously like nonsense ro anyone with knowledge on the issue. This thread is a good example.

Everything in it is documented.
Not a single thing you can refute....hence, the whining of a stuck pig, you, with "is not....issssssss noooottttttttt!!!"


"....anyone with knowledge on the issue."

Well, that lets you out.

If you had any, you'd have presented same to dispute my posts.




Let me simplify this, so even you can understand it: my relationship to facts is the same as McDonald's is to hamburgers.

And, guess what....you've helped prove it.

 

[Camp]

An attack on Pearl Harbor by Japan was being studied and predicted at war colleges since the early '20s. Hector Charles Bywater had been writing essays and articles predicting attacks by the Japanese as a Naval expert and correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph before publishing his first book in 1921. Two more books followed

Google "Sea Power in the Pacific" 1921 and: "Grear Pacific War" 1925.

 

[Camp]

Fact is, James Bond was not needed and the thesis for this thread relies on the reader not being aware of important information. Think about it. Books were written and being studied in places like Annapolis and West Point about the Japanese attacking America.

 

[PoliticalChic]

An attack on Pearl Harbor by Japan was being studied and predicted at war colleges since the early '20s. Hector Charles Bywater had been writing essays and articles predicting attacks by the Japanese as a Naval expert and correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph before publishing his first book in 1921. Two more books followed

Google "Sea Power in the Pacific" 1921 and: "Grear Pacific War" 1925.

Exactly what I've said, you dunce.

Japan knew, the Germans knew- Japan’s allies, the British knew- they sent a spy to make sure the White House knew, the Soviets knew- they had planned it, even the Korean Kilsoo Haan knew-

...and it was well advertised by a number of sources, including newspapers and the start of a Hollywood film by John Huston....who altered it to the Panama Canal after the attack.

The only one who didn't know....sort of.....was the great Roosevelt.

But....he did know how valuable it would be to his beloved, Stalin, to prevent Japan from attacking the Soviets.




While American racial policies might have been an irritant….San Francisco barred Japanese student from public school in 1905, among other things…..there is this Japanese-Russian history:

a. First Sino-Japanese War of 1895. Russia provided military support to the Qing Empire in China

b. After squabbling over Korea, the Japanese opted to go to war, staging a surprise attack on the Russian navy at Port Arthur on February 8, 1904.

c. Japan was an ally of Britain and the United States in WWI.

d. And, 1918–1922 Japanese military forces went to the Russian Maritime Provinces as part of a larger effort by western powers and Japan to support White Russian forces against the Bolshevik Red Army during the Russian Civil War. The Japanese suffered 1,399 killed and another 1,717 deaths from disease in that intervention.[Wikipedia]

e. The Soviet–Japanese border conflicts was a series of battles and skirmishes between the forces of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Empire of Japan, as well as their respective client states of Mongolia and Manchukuo. Lasting from 1932 to 1939.


And, Japan knew of the natural resources in Siberia….and how useful they could be in empire-building.






Sooo…..in order to build an empire, the question for Japan: attack north, or attack south, the Soviet Union, or the United States. Based on history, North seems the obvious choice…..

Or….

What could be better for the Soviet Union than a war between Japan and the United States!
Just imagine what would have happened had America had a President who wasn't a Stalin boot-licker.





I run circles around you, don't I, you dope.

 

[Freiheit]

Although I am pleased to see it here this is old news. Anyone with the penchant for a little research knew this 40 or more years ago. The information is there, documented, irefutable and damning. Do a little research and watch your cynicism meter peg.