It's not class warfare, it's Christianity

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    President Obama just drew the economic battlelines more clearly in his call to raise $1.5 trillion in new revenue primarily through increased taxes on the wealthy, letting the Bush tax cuts expire, and closing tax loopholes.
    “Class warfare!” countered the Republicans.
    Americans sharing more equally in the burden of pulling our country out of massive debt, and using tax revenue to stimulate the economy and create jobs isn’t “class warfare,” it’s actually Christianity.
    Many Christians are starting to find the increasing concentration of wealth in the hands of a few very rich people to be an enormous moral and ethical problem. Catholic theologians and ethicists took pains recently to challenge Speaker Boehner on Catholic values in regard to his views, particularly on the economy.
    But not all Christians agree with those perspectives. Today, not only is economics a political battleground, it is a faith battleground particularly in Christianity. According to some Christian conservatives, unregulated capitalism, with all its inherent inequalities of wealth, is God’s plan.
    “Christian Captialism” in their view, isn’t an oxymoron, it’s God’s will as revealed in the Bible. God wants you to own property and make money, and if some make a lot more money than others, that’s okay. In fact, it’s God’s will too.
    These competing views are very influential in our current public debates. The Christian conservative viewpoint, however, has been more instrumental in shaping our political shift to the right in recent years, not only on social issues, but also on economic issues. You can see this display in the “God Hates Taxes” signs carried at Tea Party rallies.
    Let me be clear as I can be. We need to understand the so-called “Christian” underpinnings of the anti-tax, anti-government, anti-the-poor, “let him die” approach to economics and public policy today as completely un-Christian, as well as un-American. What we need to do is re-establish our national values of fairness, equality and opportunity for all, values that I believe are actually the core of the Christian faith, (as well as of other religious traditions and of humanist values).

    It’s not ‘class warfare,’ it’s Christianity - - The Washington Post
     
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    FFS. Make up your mind. Separation of Church and state until we can find a reason to use Church to take away money and give it to the state?

    Mike
     
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    European Anti-Semitism is not only famous, but Christian of origins. Post-WWII, it has become less apparent as a problem. WWII was not an event, however, in Sweden: Where it is notably on the rise again. Anything Middle Eastern generally is not apparently well regarded in Sweden.

    The United States is easily not immune to xenophobic interpretations of Gospels even that may never have been written. The Federal Republicans delegations do not even have effective legislative leadership. 64 Fantasies in fact tend to run the whole federal show.

    Sweden's Jews, Muslims face web hate rise: study - The Local

    The Republican agenda is better summarized in Proverbs 22::16. "He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich; shall surely come to want and ruin." There are multiple translations. The Adjustable Rate Mortgages were an outcome of Republican supported, unregulated, accepted-as-normal, day-to-day business. Robo-signers became the norm. The Bush Tax Cuts blatantly gave whatever federal income at all there was to the rich. TARP went to bonsuses for rich bankers, in some macabre "Job-Well-Done" spirit of Christian decency. Fewer Jewish Financial House, were around and doing well.

    Usury profits from the poor are prohbited in Exodus, Leviticus, and in Deuteronomy. The New Testament compels lending to the poor without any expectation of repayment.

    Appeals to theology make no real sense, in the OP kind of analysis however. In Separation of Church and State, then the federal monument to Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., at the Capitol Mall makes an actual statement: About how blacks are regarded in the United States. "Reverend" may be the title, but black theology can never be construed to be religious of origins.

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (Young braves go into sweating-lodges, run into streams and lakes, and smoke substance of Great Spirit recognition! Christian White Eyes shoot them on sight!)
     
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    Obama easily fades from Christianity into Islam and any other required shade for perceived political gain.

    Just like his fake accents he uses depending on the demographic of his audience.
     
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    Republicans do not worship Jesus, they worship mana.
     
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    Very effective use of third post in three and half years.
     
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    That's a boo boo.
     
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    She is an idiot, just like you.

    From your link.

    What she is advocating here is equating the church and the government. I guess she forgot a little thing called the Constitution which specifically forbids Congress from making any law respecting the establishment of religion.

    Not to mention she is completely ignoring another scripture.

    In other words, the early church did share what they had, but they did so voluntarily, not through coercion.

    By the way, since this happened everywhere, and was always controlled by the local church, this proves the early church did not practice socialism, it practices communism. If it was socialistic all the money would have been sent to Jerusalem, and then redistributed however the people in Jerusalem saw fit.

    She is also completely wrong here.

    She is calling for Christians to impose their beliefs on others by force of law. My guess is all the anti dominionism nuts will step up and cheer her, ignoring the fact that they are contradicting themselves.

    There is none so blind as those who will not see.
     
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    See there Chris, Mike is smarter than you.
     

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