Italian scientist reproduces Shroud of Turin

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    Well, that's all of them now.
     
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    How does reproducing it prove its fake?

    All it proves is that with modern chemistry we can reproduce it. I must be missing something.
     
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    It does prove it's in doubt now, that since it can be reproduced there is nothing to prove it is real.
     
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    Ah, I see. So it is no longer "unique."

    I'll have to read this later. If he did reproduce it with technology of the day, then it casts doubt but still does not completely disprove it. If he used modern technology, then I'm not sure what the point of this is.
     
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    read the article...he reproduces it with methods available in the middle ages....carbon testing has dated it...the only hold out ..if it was a fake how was it done....now this man claims to answer that.
     
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    Suggesting a possibility is not the same as proof.
     
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    Nothing can disprove or prove religious belief, that's each person's own thing and no one should deny or justify their religious beliefs just because of an artifact or evidence. ;) But this does sort of break a monopoly that has been held by a specific church in one religious belief system.
     
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    Is the Shroud of Turin a fake? Beats me. Do I really care? No, not much... Does the Shroud of Turin have anything to do with my personal religious beliefs? Absolutely not. Aside from being a good human interest story, the Shroud of Turin doesn't mean anything to me.
     
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    It's more of a scientific story than anything, it's more of a study of "how it was/could have been done".
     

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