It Is OFFICIAL: Pelosi / 'Shutdown' Party Reject Deal - They Own The Shutdown!

[Lumpy 1]

Honestly.............I think he offered too much for it. 3 year extension............should have only been a 1 year offer.........

He could just TARGET DACA now..............start deporting some......and see what the left does then.

what the left does then is win the senate followed by dancing on the grave of the GOP.

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

 

[eagle1462010]

The GREAT EXPENSIVE WALLS OF 2006

 

[beagle9]

Border Wall System - Frequently Asked Questions | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Beginning in 2007, CBP has spent approximately $2.3 billion to construct the legacy border fence and associated infrastructure along the Southwest border.
There are approximately 354 miles of pedestrian barriers and 300 miles of vehicle barriers along the Southwest border, for a total of 654 miles.

Facts sheet from CBP



Amazingly............look at the number of pedestrian fences built by the MAGICAL DEMS.........LOL

Byron York: When Democrats embraced the 'Southern Border Fencing Strategy'

In 2006 Congress passed the Secure Fence Act, which mandated the construction of multilayer pedestrian fencing along about 600 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border. It passed with big, bipartisan majorities: 283 votes in the House and 80 in the Senate. Some top Democrats who are still in the Senate today supported the fence: Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Ron Wyden, Debbie Stabenow, and Sherrod Brown.

Just the next year, Congress made clear it didn't really mean what it said. The new law was amended to make fence building optional.

This fight has never really been over the wall, it's about Trump trying to get a very expensive vanity project by holding the government hostage. It's why Peloisi always says "open the government and then we'll talk".

BS.............It's about putting up proper barriers instead of the BS..........the establishment did...........their so called fencing was a joke...........their funding over time on it............IS STILL A JOKE.............

Like 260 million a year for it........that's why 300 miles of it are a couple of steel beams stuck in the ground.......lol

The border is just a political weapon during campaigns or during various adminstrations time in office, and for what ??

To distract us for years as the nation gets screwed over again and again ?

Yep, because this nation knows the difference in right and wrong, but during the heat of these issues we all get dumber than a box of rocks while the slight of hand prevails against us yet again and again.

 

[occupied]

Border Wall System - Frequently Asked Questions | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Beginning in 2007, CBP has spent approximately $2.3 billion to construct the legacy border fence and associated infrastructure along the Southwest border.
There are approximately 354 miles of pedestrian barriers and 300 miles of vehicle barriers along the Southwest border, for a total of 654 miles.

Facts sheet from CBP



Amazingly............look at the number of pedestrian fences built by the MAGICAL DEMS.........LOL

Byron York: When Democrats embraced the 'Southern Border Fencing Strategy'

In 2006 Congress passed the Secure Fence Act, which mandated the construction of multilayer pedestrian fencing along about 600 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border. It passed with big, bipartisan majorities: 283 votes in the House and 80 in the Senate. Some top Democrats who are still in the Senate today supported the fence: Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Ron Wyden, Debbie Stabenow, and Sherrod Brown.

Just the next year, Congress made clear it didn't really mean what it said. The new law was amended to make fence building optional.

This fight has never really been over the wall, it's about Trump trying to get a very expensive vanity project by holding the government hostage. It's why Peloisi always says "open the government and then we'll talk".

Thought Demon-crats backed the unions, and union bargaining ?? Why is this any different ???? You crats flipping on the union tactic of bargaining now ???

Weak.

 

[eagle1462010]

Border Wall System - Frequently Asked Questions | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Beginning in 2007, CBP has spent approximately $2.3 billion to construct the legacy border fence and associated infrastructure along the Southwest border.
There are approximately 354 miles of pedestrian barriers and 300 miles of vehicle barriers along the Southwest border, for a total of 654 miles.

Facts sheet from CBP



Amazingly............look at the number of pedestrian fences built by the MAGICAL DEMS.........LOL

Byron York: When Democrats embraced the 'Southern Border Fencing Strategy'

In 2006 Congress passed the Secure Fence Act, which mandated the construction of multilayer pedestrian fencing along about 600 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border. It passed with big, bipartisan majorities: 283 votes in the House and 80 in the Senate. Some top Democrats who are still in the Senate today supported the fence: Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Ron Wyden, Debbie Stabenow, and Sherrod Brown.

Just the next year, Congress made clear it didn't really mean what it said. The new law was amended to make fence building optional.

This fight has never really been over the wall, it's about Trump trying to get a very expensive vanity project by holding the government hostage. It's why Peloisi always says "open the government and then we'll talk".

Thought Demon-crats backed the unions, and union bargaining ?? Why is this any different ???? You crats flipping on the union tactic of bargaining now ???

Weak.

Not Weak............LOL.................a JOKE.............ummmmm.........referring to the GREAT FENCES OF SCHUMER........

Yeah that would stop someone...........LOL

 

[beagle9]

Honestly.............I think he offered too much for it. 3 year extension............should have only been a 1 year offer.........

He could just TARGET DACA now..............start deporting some......and see what the left does then.

what the left does then is win the senate followed by dancing on the grave of the GOP.

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

They've mastered the art of blaming others remember.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The man that started this shit owns this shit. There is nothing Trump can do that will change that.

I agree. Obama owns this shit. Trump can't change that.

 

[candycorn]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

.

No. On 12/11 Trump said he was responsible

 

[candycorn]

Pelosi passed legislation to reopen government. Trump rejected it

Trump needed to reject it. It didn't have wall funding. The shutdown will go on forever unless the dems negotiate in good faith. Neither side has 51% of the budget, they need to compromise. McConnell will pass the senate version of the Budget this week with wall funding. The Budget process demands reconciliation. That takes Trump out of the next loop.

Mexico was supposedly paying for the wall. Why would funding for it need to be included?

 

[Ambivalent1]

Liar in Chief Trump is the only person who can sign papers and order the end of the shutdown. He is the only one with authority to end it. Congress does not have authority to end it.

And in your little World Pelosi should NEVER compromise.

 

[Crepitus]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

.

Lol, tell us another one!

 

[Ambivalent1]

The GREAT EXPENSIVE WALLS OF 2006

I think a Jurassic Wall type would work perfectly.

 

[eagle1462010]

You know what gets me.............Israel did this for 3 million a mile........we are paying over 6 million a mile for steel bollard style fencing. Israel includes observation towers in their walls.

Turkey at 2 million a mile

 

[jc456]

Liar in Chief Trump is the only person who can sign papers and order the end of the shutdown. He is the only one with authority to end it. Congress does not have authority to end it.

Francis

 

[occupied]

Honestly.............I think he offered too much for it. 3 year extension............should have only been a 1 year offer.........

He could just TARGET DACA now..............start deporting some......and see what the left does then.

what the left does then is win the senate followed by dancing on the grave of the GOP.

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

Quit acting like you care about the unfortunate. You see these stories of the hardship caused by the shutdown the same as the rest of us and do not give a shit.

 

[candycorn]

Honestly.............I think he offered too much for it. 3 year extension............should have only been a 1 year offer.........

He could just TARGET DACA now..............start deporting some......and see what the left does then.

The moment after the CR is signed, he would reneg on the worthless offer anyway...the Dems are smart to call it a nonstarter. If there is anything that is abundantly clear it is that Trump’s agreements are worthless.

 

[jc456]

The next move is a public proposal by the Democrats otherwise they are sitting on the issue.

House has already passed legislation and passed it to the Senate. Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell refuses to allow a vote.

LOL, I wish you knew how it worked.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Honestly.............I think he offered too much for it. 3 year extension............should have only been a 1 year offer.........

He could just TARGET DACA now..............start deporting some......and see what the left does then.

what the left does then is win the senate followed by dancing on the grave of the GOP.

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

Quit acting like you care about the unfortunate. You see these stories of the hardship caused by the shutdown the same as the rest of us and do not give a shit.

Tell Nancy to compromise.

 

[eagle1462010]

Copying Israel's wall would cut Trump's price nearly in half

This is a report of how Israel did it.

 

[jc456]

The man that started this shit owns this shit. There is nothing Trump can do that will change that.

If think this nation is so shallow that it can't see the bigger picture playing out in it all, then you are one ignorant human being.

I see better than you because you somehow think the American people are immigrant hating reactionaries.

No, the people are more like Demon-crat hating reactionaries now, and all because they know that the demon-crats are using the border as a political weapon to try and destroy America as it stands or as it has stood in which worked for all American's for many years looking back. The Demon-crats are power horders who want to retain or gain power off the backs of those who will suffer greatly due their radical views on life (in this country), for which they want for themselves now.

Agree, president is showing again the colors of the swamp.

BTW, trump may own the shutdown, the dems own the hate on Americans