patrickcaturday
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First to answer Intuitions question. What you write is a very simple answer to an extremely complicated question. Quick answer is that The Church played a role by exerting outside pressure, however a greater pressure was excerted by The Mongols ! While The Church struck at the periphery , The Mongols struck at the heart of the Islamic Empire. This caused the fall of The Golden age in several ways, the most important are these
1 ) the burning of libraries and books caused the loss of the foundations of their arts and sciences. Of course some still remained but combined with the destruction of their schools this closed the environment where learning could occur.
2 ) the internal pressures of massive growth also caused the dissolution of the empire thus ending government support for the arts and sciences.
If you will notice these reasons are pretty much the same as the ones that caused the downfall of the Greek and Roman Golden Age, and led us into our Dark Ages.
To Mr. Stone;
Please provide some link or source material to support your outrageous claims. Or are you just showing your bigottry, racism, and lack of knowledge again. A lot of western science is based upon the work of Islamic Scientists.
Below you will find a small sampleing of Islamic Scientists that changed the world. Somehow I think that you will neither read them nor acknowledge them, however I may be suprised. Please note that they are not Jews or Christian dhimmis
Omar Khayyám
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Omar Khayyám
عمر خیام
A depiction of Omar Khayyám, in the works of Edward FitzGerald
Full name Omar Khayyám
عمر خیام
Born 15 May[1] 1048[2]
Died 1131 (aged 82/83)[2]
School Persian mathematics, Persian poetry, Persian philosophy
Main interests Mathematics, Philosophy, Astronomy, Poetry,
Influenced by[show]
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, Avicenna
Influenced[show]
Attar of Nishapur
Omar Khayyám (1048–1131; Persian: ‏عمر خیام*) was a Persian polymath: philosopher, mathematician, astronomer and poet. He also wrote treatises on mechanics, geography, mineralogy, music, climatology and theology.[3]
Born in Nishapur, at a young age he moved to Samarkand and obtained his education there, afterwards he moved to Bukhara and became established as one of the major mathematicians and astronomers of the medieval period. He is the author of one of the most important treatises on algebra written before modern times, the Treatise on Demonstration of Problems of Algebra, which includes a geometric method for solving cubic equations by intersecting a hyperbola with a circle.[4] He contributed to a calendar reform.
Omar Khayyám - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A. Chemistry and Alchemy
Jabir Ibn Haiyan, known in Europe by the name Geber, is generally known as the Father of Chemistry. He was one of the leading scientists in Kufa (in present day Iraq) around 776 C.E. In his early days, he was supported by the advisor to the Abbasid Caliph. Jabir died in Kufa in 803 C.E.
Jabir's (Geber's) major contribution was in the field of Chemistry. He is famous for writing twenty-two books on chemistry and alchemy. He introduced experimental investigation into alchemy which led to modern Chemistry. Jabir emphasized experimentation and development of methods to show the same result when an experiment was repeated. He developed basic chemical methods and the study of various chemical reactions and thus helped develop chemistry as a science and away from the legends and "magic" of alchemy.
[Note: Alchemy was an early "science" - or was it magic?
Part II: Advances Made by Muslims in Science
Alhazen
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Alhazen
Alhazen (Ibn al-Haytham)
Born July 1, 965(965-07-01) CE[1] (354 AH)[2]
Basra in present-day Iraq, Buyid Persia
Died March 6, 1040(1040-03-06) (aged 74)[1] (430 AH)[3]
Cairo, Egypt, Fatimid Caliphate
Residence Basra
Cairo
Fields physicist and Mathematician
Known for Book of Optics, Doubts Concerning Ptolemy, On the Configuration of the World, The Model of the Motions, Treatise on Light, Treatise on Place, scientific method, experimental science, experimental physics, experimental psychology, visual perception, analytic geometry, non-Ptolemaic astronomy, celestial mechanics
Influences Aristotle, Euclid, Ptolemy
Influenced Averroes, Witelo, Roger Bacon, Kepler
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Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham (Arabic: أبو علي، الحسن بن الحسن بن الهيثم, Persian: ابن هیثم, Latinized: Alhacen or (deprecated)[4] Alhazen) (965 in Basra – c. 1040 in Cairo) was a Muslim,[5] scientist and polymath described in various sources as either Arabic or Persian.[6][7][8][9][10][11] He is frequently referred to as Ibn al-Haytham, and sometimes as al-Basri (Arabic: البصري, after his birthplace in the city of Basra.[12] Alhazen made significant contributions to the principles of optics, as well as to physics, astronomy, mathematics, ophthalmology, philosophy, visual perception, and to the scientific method. He was also nicknamed Ptolemaeus Secundus ("Ptolemy the Second")[13] or simply "The Physicist"[14] in medieval Europe. Alhazen wrote insightful commentaries on works by Aristotle, Ptolemy, and the Greek mathematician Euclid.[15
Alhazen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
This is Mr. Stones responce to my above post ! I doubt that due to the shortness of time that it took for him to respond he even read it.. His rerponce shows an extreme lack of intelectual ability and curiosty along with his penchant for being a bigot ! If he continues in this way I will not bother to respond to him !
__________________Arab Author Nidhal Naisa: "Arabs Are Good For Nothing"
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Nobody bothers to kick a dead cat. Unfortunately, the Arabs, to some extent, are dead cats. Who would even bother to give these dead cats a kick? They are good for nothing. You cannot rely on them. They turn their backs on one another. They fight one another.
Yesterday, an Arab summit was held, but 8 leaders did not show up. They officially boycotted the summit.
Some people say that the Arabs have contributed in some way to civilization, but their only contribution was the invention of the zero. Unfortunately, they remain at the zero phase and have not moved on. In fact, they remain below zero and have not made any significant contribution to human civilization.
I am very happy and proud that the Arabs recently produced
the largest plate of hummus, pickles or tbouli salad. That is all they care about: fried pastries, pickles, baba ghanoush. This is what they are good at: cotton candy, shanklish or beet kibbeh
Arabs Are Good For Nothing - YouTube
Arabs Are Good For Nothing - YouTube
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