Isn't the Deep State a design of the Constitution? Factions/Federalist No. 10

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    I don't know why progressives deny that is exists.
    I don't know why conservatives act as if the Deep State is a modern abnormality, it's been around since the founding and was supposed arise due to the design of our constitution.

    Federalist No. 10 - Wikipedia

    The fact we haven't devolved into total (armed) civil war with all these extraordinary differences in political ideology across the United States speaks volumes of the wisdom and foresight behind the drafting of the Constitution.

     
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    I cant believe the sheep around here STILL seriously think trump is not part of the deep state that Obama and Bush and the clintons are.:rolleyes:
     
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    I can't believe anyone thinks that Deep State is a single unified faction, when it is (and always has been) multiple competing mega-conglomerates of political power.

    They were more numerous and smaller when the individual States had more power (pre 17th Amendment and pre-Civil War), but they still existed nevertheless. Post Civil War and post 17th Amendment and with modern economy being global, these power blocks have also scaled to global proportions.
     
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    I don't know why they deny it either. I think just because.....Trump.

    The Constitution was meant to be a bulwark against it, not a cause of it.
     
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    Certain factions seem to repeatedly gain the upper hand. The Israel lobby for one. The military industrial complex for another. But they go hand in hand it seems.
     
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    And the Constitution works very well against any particular faction from becoming too powerful. The Electoral College did it's job. Trump is President, despite the overbearing political forces and populations of the Blue States.
     
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    The face of the present Deep State we can see starts with George HW Bush in Dallas when JFK was assassinated, when he was already part of the CIA. The Clinton crime family is the Democratic side, who muscled their way in over the Clinton trail of bodies to get Bill elected, which is something the Bush's understand and admire. You can see more of them in the perps of 9/11, who were in charge of the defenses that 19 Saudi party boys got through and amazingly took down 3 skyscrapers in a row, flying around undisturbed all morning in the most heavily guarded air space in the world. Suddenly we are getting rid of Israel's biggest enemy for it, Saddam, and Halliburton and defense contractors are making guaranteed trillions for the next 50 years, while Medicaid, social security and school lunches all go on the chopping block. It is all so obvious you need to be a moron not to see it, but then there are lots of morons in America.



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    Are any of our political institutions really that terrible compared to other large empires, nation and superpowers throughout recorded history?
     
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    “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.” Lysander Spooner
     
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