ilia25
I can do math
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If I bake a pie, the pie is mine, and the pie is a product of my creation. I didn't plant the wheat, or the fruit trees, but I paid those who did. I didn't mill the wheat, milk the cow, or raise the chickens that laid the eggs, but I paid those that did. I didn't build the oven, or the pie tin, but I paid those that did. I didn't create the electricity I used, but I paid for it.
And why do you think that what you have paid is a fair compensation to the society, which makes your labor so productive and allows you to enjoy the fruits of it?
LOL, tell it to IRS
We all pay for roads, bridges, schools, police and fire protection, etc., and we all have a right to use that infrastructure. And since we all have access to the same public background, we all start out equal, and we progress at our own pace.
Infrastructure and public services is only a small part of what society gives to you. The biggest benefit is that you get to realize your potential, that is to be productive and creative and benefit form it.
If you were living alone in the wilderness, you'd be poor as a church mouse, and you'd be glad to die young. See the things in perspective now?
I will take your last statement first. Wealth is relative, and that means that a society of one is neither rich, nor poor. since there would be no one else to compare against. Consequently, your perspective is nonsense.
I though it was obvious that I was comparing the society of yourself in the woods with the society we are currently living in.
Was that so hard to get, or, forgive me my asking, you are just playing dumb, like your other rightwing friends?
Society is a non entity that is simply a collective term for individuals living together in harmony. Society gives me nothing but companionship.
Bullshit -- if you were living alone you would be poor and begging to end your miserable life no matter how hardworking, resourceful and creative you are.
Please, stop disputing the obvious.
I, like most Americans, pay taxes to support public schools to educate our children. All of the people involved in that endeavor are well paid to carry out their responsibilities, and consequently, I owe them nothing for doing the job they are paid to do. The same applies to the people who fix the roads and bridges, provide police and fire protection, etc. They are all paid by us to provide those services. I owe them nothing.
If you accept that paying taxes is fair, you must accept that there is some optimal level of taxation.
There must be some criteria that would let you claim that the present level of taxation is optimal, or not. I have explained my stance -- the taxes should create just enough inequality to motivate hard work and creativity.
I am not sure what level you think is optimal because the way you argue your point, that level is zero. Otherwise you cannot argue that whatever taxes you happen to pay is enough simply because you have paid them.
BTW, the IRS is only interested in my pie if I sell it.
Sure, that works fine.
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