Is the constitution outdated?

Discussion in 'US Constitution' started by MacTheKnife, Jul 20, 2018.

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    Well, perhaps the best thing to say is, what can the very best be? If Democracy is always going to bad, and a dictatorship is always going to be bad, then what is the least bad system available?

    Personally I think it's when you have fair democracy, one person, one vote.

    I think it's where everyone gets to have the representatives they want to have.
     
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    The only way it is a "living document" is if you do an amendment. English doesnt change because some bedwetter has a black cloak
     
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    Living documents do not exist. You are either ruled by the words of the law, or by the words of those currently in power. Which do you have more faith in.
     
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    Look it up.
     
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    In what way do you fantasize that President Obama wasn't qualified to be president?
     
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    How many times have portions of the Constitution been reinterpreted to mean different things? Just start with the second amendment. Until fairly recently it wasn't considered to apply to individuals. Now it is.
     
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    It's protecting you right now. Its the reason you can publish a post saying that previous Presidents have violated the Constitution.
     
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    Because of bedwetting political activists in black cloaks. The words do not change. 9/10s of the Constitution is quite clear.
    Use to, people knew the Constitution didnt give the federal govt the power to give aid to other states or localities.
    In the 19th century, there was a huge fire in savannah georgia. Burnt most of the city. They wanted help. The feds said "No, we do not have that power"
    And now we give aid to individuals, localities, states, foreign govts, corporations etc.
    Did the Constitution change or the people in the govt?
    The second has ALWAYS meant the right of the individual to have arms and ammo, shall not be fucked with. Did it always get "interpreted" to mean that? No. Does that change what it says? No.
    The people that actually wrote the damn thing would probably decide to nuke DC...
     
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    You don't even know what it is.
     
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    He was not a natural born citizen...even if he was born in Hawaii.

    'Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason:

    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986.” Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.'

    *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/native-son/
     
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    The Snopes article you quoted says this claim is false.
     

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