Is Liberalism Gasping It's Last Breath??

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    Martin Peretz: Not Much Left

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    Written by Martin Perez who is an established leftist writer and pundit.
     
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    On the contrary, liberalism is "on the march." Bush's policies in Iraq mimic the liberalism of JFK and LBJ. Their war in Vietnam was to spread freedom and democracy, aka liberalism. So as far as foreign policy goes, our president is fulfilling the dream of liberalism.

    Even domestically Bush wants to create a giant welfare state for energy producers. Cheney's stalled energy bill envisions a nation filled with nuclear power plants. Such plants are impossible without massive government subsidies. No nuclear power plant can pay for itself. From it's birth, it becomes a giant radioactive welfare baby.

    He also wants to give a form of amnesty to illegal immigrants. Sounds like an uber-liberal idea to me.

    He created NCLB. greatly enhancing big governments role in our local school districts. Seems like another liberal idea.
     
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    You seem to have missed the point of my post.
     
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    I didn't. You are correct in that the GOP has become the more 'liberal' party, meaning willing to try new solutions, when faced with the fact that the old ways are not working anymore. ie., the idea of 'private accounts' for SS. The NCLB, while flawed, is one way of addressing troubled schools. The Patriot Act falls in this as well.

    The Dems on the other hand, have offered nothing new, in fact the dearth of ideas is witnessed by the screeches that are becoming louder and more extreme by the day. Yep, 9/11 changed everything.
     
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    Certainly is a far cry from the day after 9/11 when all of Congress and the Senate were out on the Capitol steps holding hands singing "cumbaya" :p:

    It seems nowadays the only thing Democrats can come up with is to ask every member of Bush's cabinet and every Republican in office to resign hoping it will stick sooner or later. Just today Kennedy told Rummsfeld to resign and now Hillary has her teeth out again asking..... get this.... Karl Rove to resign over a comment made at a dinner party..<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSXXXXXX42US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_12_16.gif' alt='Wetting Pants' border=0></a>
     
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    I just posted on that! :laugh: The machinations on the left began very early, they were bright enough to know though, that the vast majority of democratic voters were going to rally to the President, which is why it appeared for a bit that 'we were together.' It had broken down by the beginning of December 2001.
     
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    Kathianne

    Im thinking more like on 9/14 ....am LOL
     
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    Not the politicos, they waited. Move On however, was less than 48 hours.
     

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