Is it Israel's land or not? If not it is occupied.

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Again in an effort to keep other threads on track

My personal belief is that Israel has a legal right to set up camp anywhere in the area of the mandate minus the territory encompassed by Jordan.

Neither Israel's application for statehood not the UNSCR 69 which ratified it mentions specific borders.

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*I Resolutions or decisions on this question were also by the Council in 1946, 1947 and 1948.

adopted

la No further details of the vote are given in the record of the meeting.

10 See Of$cial Records of the Security Council, Third Year,
Supplement for December 1948, document S/1093; and ibid., annde, Supplbment de. d&imbue 1948, document S/1093; et ibid., Fourth Year, Supplement for March 1949, document S/1267. quatridme annie, SuppMment de mars 1949, document S/1267.


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a3Voir Pro&-verbaux ofjciels du Conseil de skcuritk, troisi2me


1. Decides in its judgement that Israel is a peace- loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter, and accordingly,

2. ,Recommendsto the General Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,

1. D&de qu’a son avis Isra61 est un Etat pacifique

capable de remplir les obligations ?Xle faire et, en consCquence,

2. Recommcrrlde12 I’AssemblCe
Is&l comme Membre de I’Organisation des Nations Unies.

Adopt& d la 4148 skance par 9 voiw contre une (Egypto), avec une abstention (Royaume-
Uni de Grande-Bretgne et d’lrlande du Nerd) ,

De’cision

A sa 4448 seance, le 15 septembre 1949, le Conseil a decide que les demandes d’admission a l’organisation des Nations Unies des pays &rum&es dans le projet de resolution present6 par I’Union des RCpubIiques socia- listes sovietiques 24- Albanie, RCpublique populaire de Mongolie, Bulgarie, Roumanie, Hong&, Finlande, Italie, Portugal, Irlande, Transjordanie (Jordanie), Autriche, Ceylan et Nepal - seraient mises aux voix separement.

de la Charte et dispose


Adopted at the 414th meeting by 9 votes to I (Egypt), with I abstention (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).

Decision

gtnerale d’admettre

At its 444th meeting,
decided that a separate vote should be taken on the application for membership in the United Nations of each country mentioned in the draft resolution submitted by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,24 namely, Albania, the Mongolian People’s Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Transjordan (Jordan), Austria, Ceylon and Nepal.

on 15 September

1949, the Council

Adopted by 8 votes to 3 (EgYPt* Ukrainian Soviet

Adoptge par 8 voix centre 3 (Egypte, RPpubhque sacfaliste sovi6tigue d’ukraine, Union des Rkpubliques socialistes sovit-

tiques) .

STRATEGIQUES 26

Socialist Republic, Union Soviet Socialist Republics).

of


End quote

Doesn't cut and paste very well but its clear enough. There is no mention of borders. Either in the application or the acceptance
 
Again in an effort to keep other threads on track

My personal belief is that Israel has a legal right to set up camp anywhere in the area of the mandate minus the territory encompassed by Jordan.

Neither Israel's application for statehood not the UNSCR 69 which ratified it mentions specific borders.

Quote


*I Resolutions or decisions on this question were also by the Council in 1946, 1947 and 1948.

adopted

la No further details of the vote are given in the record of the meeting.

10 See Of$cial Records of the Security Council, Third Year,
Supplement for December 1948, document S/1093; and ibid., annde, Supplbment de. d&imbue 1948, document S/1093; et ibid., Fourth Year, Supplement for March 1949, document S/1267. quatridme annie, SuppMment de mars 1949, document S/1267.


11

a3Voir Pro&-verbaux ofjciels du Conseil de skcuritk, troisi2me


1. Decides in its judgement that Israel is a peace- loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter, and accordingly,

2. ,Recommendsto the General Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,

1. D&de qu’a son avis Isra61 est un Etat pacifique

capable de remplir les obligations ?Xle faire et, en consCquence,

2. Recommcrrlde12 I’AssemblCe
Is&l comme Membre de I’Organisation des Nations Unies.

Adopt& d la 4148 skance par 9 voiw contre une (Egypto), avec une abstention (Royaume-
Uni de Grande-Bretgne et d’lrlande du Nerd) ,

De’cision

A sa 4448 seance, le 15 septembre 1949, le Conseil a decide que les demandes d’admission a l’organisation des Nations Unies des pays &rum&es dans le projet de resolution present6 par I’Union des RCpubIiques socia- listes sovietiques 24- Albanie, RCpublique populaire de Mongolie, Bulgarie, Roumanie, Hong&, Finlande, Italie, Portugal, Irlande, Transjordanie (Jordanie), Autriche, Ceylan et Nepal - seraient mises aux voix separement.

de la Charte et dispose


Adopted at the 414th meeting by 9 votes to I (Egypt), with I abstention (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).

Decision

gtnerale d’admettre

At its 444th meeting,
decided that a separate vote should be taken on the application for membership in the United Nations of each country mentioned in the draft resolution submitted by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,24 namely, Albania, the Mongolian People’s Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Transjordan (Jordan), Austria, Ceylon and Nepal.

on 15 September

1949, the Council

Adopted by 8 votes to 3 (EgYPt* Ukrainian Soviet

Adoptge par 8 voix centre 3 (Egypte, RPpubhque sacfaliste sovi6tigue d’ukraine, Union des Rkpubliques socialistes sovit-

tiques) .

STRATEGIQUES 26

Socialist Republic, Union Soviet Socialist Republics).

of


End quote

Doesn't cut and paste very well but its clear enough. There is no mention of borders. Either in the application or the acceptance
Indeed, no borders are mentioned anywhere. Nowhere was it mentioned that Israel had any land.

Perhaps you could fill us in on that omission.
 
My personal belief is that Israel has a legal right to set up camp anywhere in the area of the mandate minus the territory encompassed by Jordan.

Everyone is entitled to have their own "personal belief"... Doesn't make them right!

And your personal belief is definitely wrong... Legally and morally...
 
Again in an effort to keep other threads on track

My personal belief is that Israel has a legal right to set up camp anywhere in the area of the mandate minus the territory encompassed by Jordan.

Neither Israel's application for statehood not the UNSCR 69 which ratified it mentions specific borders.

Quote


*I Resolutions or decisions on this question were also by the Council in 1946, 1947 and 1948.

adopted

la No further details of the vote are given in the record of the meeting.

10 See Of$cial Records of the Security Council, Third Year,
Supplement for December 1948, document S/1093; and ibid., annde, Supplbment de. d&imbue 1948, document S/1093; et ibid., Fourth Year, Supplement for March 1949, document S/1267. quatridme annie, SuppMment de mars 1949, document S/1267.


11

a3Voir Pro&-verbaux ofjciels du Conseil de skcuritk, troisi2me


1. Decides in its judgement that Israel is a peace- loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter, and accordingly,

2. ,Recommendsto the General Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,

1. D&de qu’a son avis Isra61 est un Etat pacifique

capable de remplir les obligations ?Xle faire et, en consCquence,

2. Recommcrrlde12 I’AssemblCe
Is&l comme Membre de I’Organisation des Nations Unies.

Adopt& d la 4148 skance par 9 voiw contre une (Egypto), avec une abstention (Royaume-
Uni de Grande-Bretgne et d’lrlande du Nerd) ,

De’cision

A sa 4448 seance, le 15 septembre 1949, le Conseil a decide que les demandes d’admission a l’organisation des Nations Unies des pays &rum&es dans le projet de resolution present6 par I’Union des RCpubIiques socia- listes sovietiques 24- Albanie, RCpublique populaire de Mongolie, Bulgarie, Roumanie, Hong&, Finlande, Italie, Portugal, Irlande, Transjordanie (Jordanie), Autriche, Ceylan et Nepal - seraient mises aux voix separement.

de la Charte et dispose


Adopted at the 414th meeting by 9 votes to I (Egypt), with I abstention (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).

Decision

gtnerale d’admettre

At its 444th meeting,
decided that a separate vote should be taken on the application for membership in the United Nations of each country mentioned in the draft resolution submitted by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,24 namely, Albania, the Mongolian People’s Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Transjordan (Jordan), Austria, Ceylon and Nepal.

on 15 September

1949, the Council

Adopted by 8 votes to 3 (EgYPt* Ukrainian Soviet

Adoptge par 8 voix centre 3 (Egypte, RPpubhque sacfaliste sovi6tigue d’ukraine, Union des Rkpubliques socialistes sovit-

tiques) .

STRATEGIQUES 26

Socialist Republic, Union Soviet Socialist Republics).

of


End quote

Doesn't cut and paste very well but its clear enough. There is no mention of borders. Either in the application or the acceptance


:cuckoo:
 
god created world because of jewish
all other people and animal created for jewish
 
Again in an effort to keep other threads on track

My personal belief is that Israel has a legal right to set up camp anywhere in the area of the mandate minus the territory encompassed by Jordan.

Neither Israel's application for statehood not the UNSCR 69 which ratified it mentions specific borders.

Quote


*I Resolutions or decisions on this question were also by the Council in 1946, 1947 and 1948.

adopted

la No further details of the vote are given in the record of the meeting.

10 See Of$cial Records of the Security Council, Third Year,
Supplement for December 1948, document S/1093; and ibid., annde, Supplbment de. d&imbue 1948, document S/1093; et ibid., Fourth Year, Supplement for March 1949, document S/1267. quatridme annie, SuppMment de mars 1949, document S/1267.


11

a3Voir Pro&-verbaux ofjciels du Conseil de skcuritk, troisi2me


1. Decides in its judgement that Israel is a peace- loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter, and accordingly,

2. ,Recommendsto the General Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,

1. D&de qu’a son avis Isra61 est un Etat pacifique

capable de remplir les obligations ?Xle faire et, en consCquence,

2. Recommcrrlde12 I’AssemblCe
Is&l comme Membre de I’Organisation des Nations Unies.

Adopt& d la 4148 skance par 9 voiw contre une (Egypto), avec une abstention (Royaume-
Uni de Grande-Bretgne et d’lrlande du Nerd) ,

De’cision

A sa 4448 seance, le 15 septembre 1949, le Conseil a decide que les demandes d’admission a l’organisation des Nations Unies des pays &rum&es dans le projet de resolution present6 par I’Union des RCpubIiques socia- listes sovietiques 24- Albanie, RCpublique populaire de Mongolie, Bulgarie, Roumanie, Hong&, Finlande, Italie, Portugal, Irlande, Transjordanie (Jordanie), Autriche, Ceylan et Nepal - seraient mises aux voix separement.

de la Charte et dispose


Adopted at the 414th meeting by 9 votes to I (Egypt), with I abstention (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).

Decision

gtnerale d’admettre

At its 444th meeting,
decided that a separate vote should be taken on the application for membership in the United Nations of each country mentioned in the draft resolution submitted by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,24 namely, Albania, the Mongolian People’s Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Transjordan (Jordan), Austria, Ceylon and Nepal.

on 15 September

1949, the Council

Adopted by 8 votes to 3 (EgYPt* Ukrainian Soviet

Adoptge par 8 voix centre 3 (Egypte, RPpubhque sacfaliste sovi6tigue d’ukraine, Union des Rkpubliques socialistes sovit-

tiques) .

STRATEGIQUES 26

Socialist Republic, Union Soviet Socialist Republics).

of


End quote

Doesn't cut and paste very well but its clear enough. There is no mention of borders. Either in the application or the acceptance


:cuckoo:
Your emoticon doesn't answer his question very well.
 
Again in an effort to keep other threads on track

My personal belief is that Israel has a legal right to set up camp anywhere in the area of the mandate minus the territory encompassed by Jordan.

Neither Israel's application for statehood not the UNSCR 69 which ratified it mentions specific borders.

Quote


*I Resolutions or decisions on this question were also by the Council in 1946, 1947 and 1948.

adopted

la No further details of the vote are given in the record of the meeting.

10 See Of$cial Records of the Security Council, Third Year,
Supplement for December 1948, document S/1093; and ibid., annde, Supplbment de. d&imbue 1948, document S/1093; et ibid., Fourth Year, Supplement for March 1949, document S/1267. quatridme annie, SuppMment de mars 1949, document S/1267.


11

a3Voir Pro&-verbaux ofjciels du Conseil de skcuritk, troisi2me


1. Decides in its judgement that Israel is a peace- loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter, and accordingly,

2. ,Recommendsto the General Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,

1. D&de qu’a son avis Isra61 est un Etat pacifique

capable de remplir les obligations ?Xle faire et, en consCquence,

2. Recommcrrlde12 I’AssemblCe
Is&l comme Membre de I’Organisation des Nations Unies.

Adopt& d la 4148 skance par 9 voiw contre une (Egypto), avec une abstention (Royaume-
Uni de Grande-Bretgne et d’lrlande du Nerd) ,

De’cision

A sa 4448 seance, le 15 septembre 1949, le Conseil a decide que les demandes d’admission a l’organisation des Nations Unies des pays &rum&es dans le projet de resolution present6 par I’Union des RCpubIiques socia- listes sovietiques 24- Albanie, RCpublique populaire de Mongolie, Bulgarie, Roumanie, Hong&, Finlande, Italie, Portugal, Irlande, Transjordanie (Jordanie), Autriche, Ceylan et Nepal - seraient mises aux voix separement.

de la Charte et dispose


Adopted at the 414th meeting by 9 votes to I (Egypt), with I abstention (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).

Decision

gtnerale d’admettre

At its 444th meeting,
decided that a separate vote should be taken on the application for membership in the United Nations of each country mentioned in the draft resolution submitted by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,24 namely, Albania, the Mongolian People’s Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Transjordan (Jordan), Austria, Ceylon and Nepal.

on 15 September

1949, the Council

Adopted by 8 votes to 3 (EgYPt* Ukrainian Soviet

Adoptge par 8 voix centre 3 (Egypte, RPpubhque sacfaliste sovi6tigue d’ukraine, Union des Rkpubliques socialistes sovit-

tiques) .

STRATEGIQUES 26

Socialist Republic, Union Soviet Socialist Republics).

of


End quote

Doesn't cut and paste very well but its clear enough. There is no mention of borders. Either in the application or the acceptance


:cuckoo:
Your emoticon doesn't answer his question very well.

On the contrary, it answers the question comprehensively. Boston has been found out. Hasbara bingo below covers all the points he will be making in this thread.


"The narrative of Hasbara has a victimized quality underpinning it, a very passive-aggressive approach, Israel is always defending not attacking. They play the mis-understood victim and invite their critics to attack them. The sub-current being that Israel’s message is not understood. Israel views that the reason for this is either lack of education or stupidity. So the Hasbara agents explain until they realize that they are getting nowhere and then respond with disdain and disgust."

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