Is "ignorance" a good thing?

[healthmyths]

In early 2007, then-Senator Barack Obama was pushing a plan to pull U.S. forces out of Iraq and abort the “surge” strategy that had yet to take hold and end the raging sectarian struggle. President George W. Bush believed that a precipitate U.S. troop pullout would lead to increased chaos, bloodshed, and eventual terrorist victories.

Given the recent dramatic events in Iraq, it looks like Mr. Bush knew what he was talking about.

In January 2007, Senator Obama introduced S 433, “The Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007,” that would have prevented the troop surge and begun a year-long U.S. military withdrawal. This would, he believed, “pressure the Iraqis to finally reach a political settlement and reduce the violence.” Oddly enough, with Iraq now in turmoil Mr. Obama is saying the use of force to counter the ISIS offensive would be insufficient without some form of political settlement to reduce the violence, which was facilitated by the withdrawal of U.S. troops in the first place.
Remember when George W. Bush predicted exactly what would happen if we pulled troops from Iraq like Obama wanted? - BuzzPo

Funny, the Pope warned Bush before the invasion on what would happen. The Pope was right.

However, you seem to be advocating leaving hundreds of thousands of armed Americans in Iraq forever to "keep the peace". Is that what you are suggesting?

I am NOT a military expert obviously.
AND the military that advised Bush regarding the Liberation of Iraq proposed the correct number of troops to overthrow Saddam and it was
done in 6 weeks with less then 100 lives lost.

BUT this same military did NOT believe much less account for statements like these from "AMERICANS" that prolonged the Liberation for 6 years!

All because these TRAITORS encouraged recruitment for terrorists when these traitors called our troops terrorists, civilian killers!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
Do you think these were encouraging words to OUR military or to the terrorists?

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

And so these same military experts that were totally blindsided by the above traitors comments that cost thousands more lives then necessary
by giving the terrorist propaganda words.. would say keep troops in Iraq just as we did after WWII!

For the most part, U.S. troops were stationed abroad as part of the Cold War system of deterrence through alliances with nations such as Japan, South Korea, and NATO member nations.
While such defensive missions were the norm, troops sent to Korea in the early 1950s and to Vietnam during the 1960s were actively at war, as are those currently in Iraq.
Global U.S. Troop Deployment, 1950-2003

and you'll see "the military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries around the world, [including Africa and the Middle East] with approximately 160,000 of its active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories and an additional 117,000 deployed in various contingency operations."

This source: U.S. military personnel by country
Europe/Japan 116,260 including bases!
United States military deployments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BillyP]

It works for black folks.

What does?

Being ignorant.

Just curious, are you black?

 

[deltex1]

I once read that Reagan and Bush Jr. had the uncanny ability to break a complex question down into a very simple yes/no answer.

To me, leaving out the complexity points to the idea that they may not really understand the situation. That would be ignorance.

Take Iraq, clearly when the US invaded Iraq and set up a Shiite government that ended up friends with Iran that was never the intention. That comes from ignorance about the people you are invading and conquering.

Does anyone have an example where ignorance "worked"? Where you didn't need to know anything. All you needed to do with just "go do it"?

If it is, you're the bestest...

 

[Dot Com]

In early 2007, then-Senator Barack Obama was pushing a plan to pull U.S. forces out of Iraq and abort the “surge” strategy that had yet to take hold and end the raging sectarian struggle. President George W. Bush believed that a precipitate U.S. troop pullout would lead to increased chaos, bloodshed, and eventual terrorist victories.

Given the recent dramatic events in Iraq, it looks like Mr. Bush knew what he was talking about.

In January 2007, Senator Obama introduced S 433, “The Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007,” that would have prevented the troop surge and begun a year-long U.S. military withdrawal. This would, he believed, “pressure the Iraqis to finally reach a political settlement and reduce the violence.” Oddly enough, with Iraq now in turmoil Mr. Obama is saying the use of force to counter the ISIS offensive would be insufficient without some form of political settlement to reduce the violence, which was facilitated by the withdrawal of U.S. troops in the first place.
Remember when George W. Bush predicted exactly what would happen if we pulled troops from Iraq like Obama wanted? - BuzzPo

Funny, the Pope warned Bush before the invasion on what would happen. The Pope was right.

However, you seem to be advocating leaving hundreds of thousands of armed Americans in Iraq forever to "keep the peace". Is that what you are suggesting?

I am NOT a military expert obviously.
AND the military that advised Bush regarding the Liberation of Iraq proposed the correct number of troops to overthrow Saddam and it was
done in 6 weeks with less then 100 lives lost.

BUT this same military did NOT believe much less account for statements like these from "AMERICANS" that prolonged the Liberation for 6 years!

All because these TRAITORS encouraged recruitment for terrorists when these traitors called our troops terrorists, civilian killers!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
Do you think these were encouraging words to OUR military or to the terrorists?

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

And so these same military experts that were totally blindsided by the above traitors comments that cost thousands more lives then necessary
by giving the terrorist propaganda words.. would say keep troops in Iraq just as we did after WWII!

For the most part, U.S. troops were stationed abroad as part of the Cold War system of deterrence through alliances with nations such as Japan, South Korea, and NATO member nations.
While such defensive missions were the norm, troops sent to Korea in the early 1950s and to Vietnam during the 1960s were actively at war, as are those currently in Iraq.
Global U.S. Troop Deployment, 1950-2003

and you'll see "the military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries around the world, [including Africa and the Middle East] with approximately 160,000 of its active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories and an additional 117,000 deployed in various contingency operations."

This source: U.S. military personnel by country
Europe/Japan 116,260 including bases!
United States military deployments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

all well and good. Whose taxes are going to be raised for your party's foreign entanglements that cost of blood & treasure? Want your taxes raised to pay for it? Any Repub-voter on this board want their taxes raised to pay for that $3-5 TRILLION $$$ (when you add-in health care costs for the next 20+ yrs) Repub war-of-choice [MENTION=32646]healthmyths[/MENTION]