IRS Loses Challenge In Court To Prove Wage-Income Tax Law

Discussion in 'Economy' started by Paulie, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. Paulie
    Offline

    Paulie Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2007
    Messages:
    31,538
    Thanks Received:
    4,851
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +15,383
    Many of you "conservatives" who claim to love tax cuts and reduced spending so much, don't even realize that there is no proven law that states we are even required to pay tax on our earned-wage income.

    The IRS won't even touch that issue. "No comment" is their status-quo.

    Cut many of the bullshit Cabinet bureaus, cut or at least REFORM the welfare program, quit going to war for economic reasons, and we wouldn't even NEED to pay taxes.

    Those damn Liberals, huh RSR...?



    <blockquote><blockquote>
    <hr color="red" size="2">
    <!-- standing head -->
    <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color= "#440000" size="-1"><b>THE POWER TO DESTROY</b></font><br>

    <!-- end standing head -->


    <!-- head -->
    <font face="Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000" size="+2">IRS loses challenge
    to prove tax liability</font><br>
    <!-- end head -->

    <!-- deck -->
    <font face="Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#000000" size="+1">Lawyer is acquitted after arguing
    income levy lacks legal foundation</font><br>

    <!-- end deck -->
    <hr size="1">
    <font size=-1>Posted: July 26, 2007<br>1:00 a.m. Eastern<br><br></font>

    <font face="Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times">



    <p>
    <font face="Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif">

    <!-- byline -->
    By Bob Unruh<br>
    <!-- end byline -->

    <!--- copywrite only show on NON commentary pages as per joseph meeting 8/23/06 ------>

    <font size="-1">
    <!-- copyright -->
    &copy;&nbsp;2007&nbsp;WorldNetDaily.com
    <!-- end copyright -->

    </font>
    </font>
    <p>


    <!-- intelliTXT -->
    <span id="intelliTXT">
    <!-- Kontera -->

    <!-- begin bodytext -->
    <P>The <a href=http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.irs.gov/localcontacts/index.html>Internal Revenue Service</a> has lost a lawyer's challenge in front of a jury to prove a constitutional foundation for the nation's income tax, and the victorious attorney now is setting his sights higher.

    <P>"I think now people are beginning to realize that this has got to be the largest fraud, backed up by intimidation and extortion and by the sheer force of taking peoples property and hard-earned money without any lawful authorization whatsoever," lawyer Tom Cryer told WND just days after a jury in Louisiana acquitted him of two criminal tax counts.
    <P>And before you consign him to the legions of "tin foil hat brigades" who argue against paying taxes, and then want payment to explain how to do that, he addresses the issue up front.

    <P>"These snake oil peddlers have conned millions of dollars out of many well-intended patriots and left a trail of broken lives in their wake. ? These charlatans should be avoided, not only because they will lead you to bankruptcy and prison, but because by association they discredit those who are telling the truth," he said.


    <P>The truth, he said, is where he comes in, with the launch of a new <a href=http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.truthattack.org/>Truth Attack</a> website that is intended to build on his victory, and create a coalition of resources to defeat &#8211; ultimately &#8211; the income tax in the United States.

    <P>Although the legal citations in the case tend to run the length of paragraphs, Cryer told WND the underlying issue is not that complicated. Essentially, he argued that income is not necessarily any money that comes to a person, but rather categories such as profit and interest.

    <P>He said the free exchange of labor for compensation has been upheld as a right by the Supreme Court, but that doesn't necessarily make the compensation income.


    <P>If ever such an argument were to be presented widely, Cryer said, the income to the federal government would plummet. But not to worry, he said, the expenses could be reduced equally by eliminating programs, departments and agencies that also have no foundation in the Constitution.
    <P>"The Founding Fathers intentionally restricted the taxing powers of the new federal government as a measure of restraint on its size. By exceeding that limited taxing authority the federal government has been able to obtain resources beyond its intended reach, and that money has enabled the federal government to exceed its authority," he said.
    <P>For example, he said, the Constitution does not empower the federal government to regulate education, or employment, and agriculture, yet it does so.
    <P>The jury in U.S. District Court in Louisiana voted 12-0 to find Cryer, of Shreveport, not guilty of failure to file income taxes for two years. He had been indicted in 2006 on charges of failing to pay $73,000 to the IRS in 2000 and 2001. The next step in his personal case will be up to the IRS and prosecutors, if they choose to continue the issue, he said.

    <P>But for the rest of the nation, he's working with <a href=http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.save-a-patriot.org/>Save-a-Patriot,</a> <a href=http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://freeenterprisesociety.com/>the Free Enterprise Society,</a> <a href=http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.livefreenow.org/>Live Free Now</a> and his own <a href=http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.gcstation.net/liefreezone/>Lie Free Zone</a> to spread the message of the truth.

    <P>"There are three points that are important," he told WND. "There's no law making the average working man liable [for income taxes], there's no law or regulation that allows the IRS to contend that earnings are 100 percent profit received in exchange for nothing, and the right to earn a living through any lawful occupation is a constitutionally protected fundamental right, and it is exempt from taxation."

    <P>Spokesman Robert Marvin in Washington's IRS office told WND the Internal Revenue Code provides for taxation on salaries or wages, but when pressed for a specific citation, or constitutional provision, he said, "I can't comment."

    <P>Cryer's encounter with tax law began more than a decade ago when a friend told him the income tax was sham. Cryer started researching, hoping to keep his friend out of trouble. But his conclusions, after years of research, were exactly what his friend told him.

    <P>He researched not only tax laws, but also the documents pertaining to the drafting of the U.S. Constitution as well as the first income tax.

    <P>He said throughout his battle, he's offered at every turn to pay taxes if the IRS could show him the authorization, and that never has happened.

    <P>"The Criminal Investigation Division and Department of Justice both responded only with 'your position is frivolous.' I had never stated a position, so how could they know whether it was frivolous?" he said. "Imagine my sending you a bill for $1,000 and when you call me and ask what the bill was for I simply said, 'that position is frivolous, just write the check and send it in.'"

    <P>His acquittal, he said, was a precedent because it means "people can see and recognize the truth."

    <P>He said multiple Supreme Court opinions have affirmed an individual's ownership of his or her own labor, and "exercising your fundamental rights" is not taxable. "It is definitely a trade. What most people receive in the form of wages, salaries or in my case fees that they personally earned for their labor is not received in exchange for nothing."

    <P>He said there might be a profit that should be taxable, but there might not.

    <P>"The IRS lets Wal-Mart sell a trillion dollars worth of goods, but they can back out their cost of goods [before being taxed,]" he said. "The IRS considers, in the case of a Wal-Mart wage earner, 100 percent of what he takes in is profit."

    <P>"But he's using his life, energy and work lifespan, and depleting it as he goes," Cryer told WND. "[Working] is a God-given fundamental right that is protected under the Constitution and can't be taxed any more than exercising freedom of speech."

    <P>While he waits to see what, if anything, the IRS and Justice Department will do next in his case, he's working to coordinate the groups that are battling taxation as unconstitutional.

    <P>"I have started a campaign to unify [the work] and we've got a number of organizations that are sponsoring and supporting this campaign," he said. The goal is to get everyone "who is aware of the truth" organized so they can spread the word.

    <P>He warned without a restoration of constitutional basics, the nation is lost.

    <P>"Read your Constitution and you will see that the federal role does not include ANY authority to regulate or tax any citizen directly and that WE expressly reserved the right to rule and govern ourselves as States, not as mere political subdivisions," his website says.

    <P>"The Constitution does not allow the government to run your lives, but the money it is stealing from millions of Americans is the fuel for its over-reaching and kibitzing. Take the money back and we and our states and communities can again be free," he said.

    <P>The fight is over "our FREEDOM from rule by a DISTANT RULER, just as we fought to free ourselves of a distant England over 200 years ago," he said.



    </blockquote></blockquote>
     
  2. dilloduck
    Offline

    dilloduck Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    53,240
    Thanks Received:
    5,552
    Trophy Points:
    1,850
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Ratings:
    +6,403
    Now THAT'S mighty presumptive of ya. Is that just a wild guess or did you run a poll?
     
  3. Ninja
    Offline

    Ninja Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2006
    Messages:
    2,220
    Thanks Received:
    377
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Glorious People's Republic of California
    Ratings:
    +377
    Awww, lookie, Pauley just finished watching "Freedom to Fascism"! How cute!
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  4. RetiredGySgt
    Online

    RetiredGySgt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    39,553
    Thanks Received:
    5,900
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Ratings:
    +8,971
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. Paulie
    Offline

    Paulie Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2007
    Messages:
    31,538
    Thanks Received:
    4,851
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +15,383
    The one that was never even ratified by 36 states? Yeah, i've glanced at it.

    Funny how the IRS doesn't bother to cite it when questioned in a court of law about the Tax code, and instead resorts to no-comments, and agents with automatic rifles.

    Fall back, sarge.
     
  6. RetiredGySgt
    Online

    RetiredGySgt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    39,553
    Thanks Received:
    5,900
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Ratings:
    +8,971
    There were not 50 States back then and it WAS legally ratified. Unless your now going to claim every amendment now requires a revote every time we add States? Provide some evidence that the 16th Amendment was never properly ratified please.
     
  7. RetiredGySgt
    Online

    RetiredGySgt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    39,553
    Thanks Received:
    5,900
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Ratings:
    +8,971

Share This Page