Iran Hits Two Oil Tankers, What Will/Should Trump Do?

[WillPower]

Any number of scenarios are possible including a ship commander going rogue from any number of the players involved. I doubt Israel would pull a stunt like that given Bibi and Donald's friendship. The Saudis don't have submarines that I know of but then again, torpedoes can be launched from a number of surface ships. Like I said earlier, wait for satellite imagery which is obvious from our recent buildup in the theatre, and radio transmissions, if any. If it's Iran, tell the Saudis and Israelis they have our blessing to retaliate....if Iran hits us, tear them a new asshole.

 

[The Original Tree]

There is no proof at this time. No investigation...no eyewitness reports. No affirmative or denial from Iran. Yet...IRAN!

Iran seems to be denying it.

‘Suspicious doesn’t begin to describe what happened’: Iran’s FM on tanker ‘attacks’ in Gulf of Oman ‘Suspicious doesn’t begin to describe what happened’: Iran’s FM on tanker ‘attacks’ in Gulf of Oman


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we will figure out who did it and they will pay the price, wait and watch.

Please tell us why did he pull out of the multi ally with Iran agreement again?
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Ahhhh, yes.... WAR with whoever did it... hopefully Iran!!!

What if it was a false flag? Done by Israel? Done by Russia? Done by whomever.... to purposely draw us in to a war with Iran?

Because Obama stabbed America in the back with a purposeful bad agreement that lets Iran Terrorize the entire Middle East with Nukes.and Obama Bombs.

propaganda!

Here is more Propaganda:

Why isn't John Kerry and the other 4 Obama Officials Obama aka (Jefferson Davis) sent to Iran not in jail for violations of The Logan Act and for repeated Interference in US Diplomatic Efforts with Iran?

And why are you allied with America's enemies?

 

[depotoo]

$1.7-billion payment to Iran was all in cash due to effectiveness of sanctions, White House says

It never fails, if a Republican is President, Satan himself could attack American Interests and dimocrap scum would side with him.

I know dims don't follow news that doesn't include their genitalia, but Iran has been spotted loading armed missiles (torpedoes) onto their light-attack boats.

And the US and Britain have been sending troops and equipment to the Region for over a Month.

And General McKenzie told ABC last week that he believed an Iranian attack was imminent.

the Lying Cocksucker had a chance to end Iran from within shortly after he took Office. Instead, he went on an apology tour, telling the word what people Americans are and left the rebelling Iranians to deal with Iran's murdering troops.

Thanks to the Lying Cocksucker, this beautiful woman will never have children, never have a family of her own.

Because dimocraps are cowards. Always have been, always will be.

I hope Trump begins unrestricted warfare against Iran starting tomorrow

So Trump breaks peace agreement...

Ships get attacked (we don't know by who)

But lets have a war...

We got it... Got young men, they need to get killed... And if they don't Trump can call them names when they get home...

When you goto another needless war this time, could you properly fund the Vet Affairs before hand... You get awkward guys who survive and burden the taxpayers with there problems... Those f*ckers could have just died...

By the way it doesn't take much bravery sending someone else son or daughter to war... How many of the Trump kids are going to see action?

Compare that to Biden? He at least had skin in the game...

the obama/Iran deal was not a peace agreement, it was a surrender to the terrorist regime including sending them billions of our money to use for further terrorist attacks. Damn, you libs are stupid.

Sending them billions?
Source?

U.S. Transferred $1.3 Billion More in Cash to Iran After Initial Payment

Funny, this says otherwise.
FactCheck.org

 

[Sunni Man]

I wouldn't be surprised if the attack on the ships was an Israeli Mossad false flag operation in order to put the blame on Iran.

Israel has been trying to get the U.S. to attack and invade Iran for years. ..

 

[depotoo]

I wouldn't be surprised if the attack on the ships was an Israeli Mossad false flag operation in order to put the blame on Iran.

Israel has been trying to get the U.S. to attack and invade Iran for years. ..

Of course, you wouldn’t.

 

[WillPower]

Then don't use our pipelines Canada, that our govt helped you get, through eminent domain laws used on our citizens.... so that Canada could get their oil to Texas on the cheap... then see how much money they would make, off of selling it to those overseas....

Better look again. Canada has a pipeline to the Pacific coast. They do not need us. Pipelines in Canada | The Canadian Encyclopedia

They have a small pipeline going to BC but not for export...the waters there are too wild for oil tankers to come in safely. I've fished in the San Juans and the rip is unbelievable....if a tanker hit those shoals the spill would be catastrophic....some of the most pristine waters I've ever seen and I grew up fishing Lake Michigan and Superior.... close seconds.

 

[The Original Tree]

I wouldn't be surprised if the attack on the ships was an Israeli Mossad false flag operation in order to put the blame on Iran.

Israel has been trying to get the U.S. to attack and invade Iran for years. ..

So Israel is trying to start a war with Japan?

Go suck more Mullah Ayahtollah Dickah

 

[Care4all]

So Trump breaks peace agreement...

Ships get attacked (we don't know by who)

But lets have a war...

We got it... Got young men, they need to get killed... And if they don't Trump can call them names when they get home...

When you goto another needless war this time, could you properly fund the Vet Affairs before hand... You get awkward guys who survive and burden the taxpayers with there problems... Those f*ckers could have just died...

By the way it doesn't take much bravery sending someone else son or daughter to war... How many of the Trump kids are going to see action?

Compare that to Biden? He at least had skin in the game...

the obama/Iran deal was not a peace agreement, it was a surrender to the terrorist regime including sending them billions of our money to use for further terrorist attacks. Damn, you libs are stupid.

Sending them billions?
Source?

U.S. Transferred $1.3 Billion More in Cash to Iran After Initial Payment

Funny, this says otherwise.
FactCheck.org

My WSJ article documents that Obama sent Iran Billions. Your FactCheck link doesn't comment on that.

It was THEIR MONEY, and NOT OUR Money, and that is where Redfish's comment was wrong.

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a 37-year-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s.

White House officials had said that they believed the U.S. would lose the arbitration case over the initial $400 million payment, made by the last Shah of Iran months before the Islamic Revolution. Such a decision would have made them liable for much more money

US made $1.7 billion transfer to Iran in foreign cash, Treasury says

 

[Edgetho]

Tale of The Tape

 

[P F Tinmore]

They were not our ships. We should stay out of it.

 

[whitehall]

Obama would have apologized and paid the extortion even if there was no evidence.

 

[kyzr]

the obama/Iran deal was not a peace agreement, it was a surrender to the terrorist regime including sending them billions of our money to use for further terrorist attacks. Damn, you libs are stupid.

Sending them billions?
Source?

U.S. Transferred $1.3 Billion More in Cash to Iran After Initial Payment

Funny, this says otherwise.
FactCheck.org

My WSJ article documents that Obama sent Iran Billions. Your FactCheck link doesn't comment on that.

It was THEIR MONEY, and NOT OUR Money, and that is where Redfish's comment was wrong.

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a 37-year-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s.

White House officials had said that they believed the U.S. would lose the arbitration case over the initial $400 million payment, made by the last Shah of Iran months before the Islamic Revolution. Such a decision would have made them liable for much more money

US made $1.7 billion transfer to Iran in foreign cash, Treasury says

I don't care whose money it was. Giving ANY money to the terrorist funding network is stupid, reckless, irresponsible, not to mention allows them to develop their nuclear weapons. Just like Bubba Clinton gave NK a few $billion to develop theirs?!

I would NOT have given Iran any money until they had a more responsible, less terrorist supporting government.

 

[depotoo]

the obama/Iran deal was not a peace agreement, it was a surrender to the terrorist regime including sending them billions of our money to use for further terrorist attacks. Damn, you libs are stupid.

Sending them billions?
Source?

U.S. Transferred $1.3 Billion More in Cash to Iran After Initial Payment

Funny, this says otherwise.
FactCheck.org

My WSJ article documents that Obama sent Iran Billions. Your FactCheck link doesn't comment on that.

It was THEIR MONEY, and NOT OUR Money, and that is where Redfish's comment was wrong.

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a 37-year-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s.

White House officials had said that they believed the U.S. would lose the arbitration case over the initial $400 million payment, made by the last Shah of Iran months before the Islamic Revolution. Such a decision would have made them liable for much more money

US made $1.7 billion transfer to Iran in foreign cash, Treasury says

And yet Iran owed US victims, still...
https://nypost.com/2016/09/08/no-we-didnt-owe-iran-that-1-7-billion-ransom-payment/
Moreover, the administration had more than $400 million in other claims against Iran, arising under the “Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act,” for court judgments it holds against Iran for terrorist attacks against Americans. That law specifically provided that “no funds shall be paid to Iran . . . from the Foreign Military Sales Fund, until [such claims] have been dealt with to the satisfaction of the United States.”

In a Jan. 29 letter, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) asked why the administration had paid Iran its claim before Iran satisfied the VTVPA claims — which total $465 million plus interest. The administration responded it had resolved the VTVPA claims “by securing a favorable resolution on the interest owed” Iran. But in a June 1 letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, Royce computed the maximum Iranian claim arising out of the 1979 payment as $1.8 billion — before considering any offsets in American claims against Iran.

We currently don’t know whether, after such offsets, the United States owed Iran anything at all.

And what of the interest Iran owed on the VTVPA claims?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There is no proof at this time. No investigation...no eyewitness reports. No affirmative or denial from Iran. Yet...IRAN!

Iran said they rescued the sailors when we know thats not the case.
And really who else would do such a thing?
I'm not saying we have definitive proof but Iran is the most likely culprit.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Never happened under Obama...

Weak Trump..

Of course not.
Barry gave them billions.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There is no proof at this time. No investigation...no eyewitness reports. No affirmative or denial from Iran. Yet...IRAN!

Iran seems to be denying it.

‘Suspicious doesn’t begin to describe what happened’: Iran’s FM on tanker ‘attacks’ in Gulf of Oman ‘Suspicious doesn’t begin to describe what happened’: Iran’s FM on tanker ‘attacks’ in Gulf of Oman


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If she floats, she is a witch. If she sinks, she is a dead witch.

I don't see why Iran would go after Tankers in the Gulf... Totally against there interest... Israelis and Saudis would be the big winners...

They've done it before.

 

[Edgetho]

It was THEIR MONEY, and NOT OUR Money, and that is where Redfish's comment was wrong.

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a 37-year-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s.

White House officials had said that they believed the U.S. would lose the arbitration case over the initial $400 million payment, made by the last Shah of Iran months before the Islamic Revolution. Such a decision would have made them liable for much more money

US made $1.7 billion transfer to Iran in foreign cash, Treasury says

This is a good illustration of the sickness, simple-mindedness and depravity of the leftist mind.....

China sez that Britain signed a 99 year lease with them for Hong Kong and they want it back.

So the Brits comply. Stupidly.

The USA says to China, "We loaned you hundreds of millions cash and gave you 100's of millions more in equipment to fight the Japanese during WWII and we'd like to be re-payed"

The Chinese say, "Fuck off. That was a different government"

The Iranian government we impounded the money from and for was/is different than the money we gave to the current government.

And again, dimocraps are some stupid bitches.

We're still waiting to be repaid by the USSR for the WWII Lend-Lease program that save their commie asses from the socialist Krauts, too.

 

[mudwhistle]

We know what obama would do -- Preemptive surrender. But what will Trump do?

We know he is opposed to Foreign Wars. Hates them.

Iran has called his bluff, will he respond in kind??

Of course, the only decent news about almost anything comes from the Foreign Press. The American Press stopped being in the news business decades ago --

Oil tankers hit in fresh 'torpedo attack' in Gulf of Oman amid Iran tensions - live updates

They aren't our tankers.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Can't the torpedos (or what's left of them) be traced?

It probably was not topedos, it's well known and documented that Iran has mined the Straights. Likely it was a mine.

They said one of the ships was hit above the water line which rules out mines or torpedos.

 

[Edgetho]

They were not our ships. We should stay out of it.

We don't have an interest in the Freedom of The Seas?

We don't have an interest in the free flow of oil?

We don't have a financial and societal interest in making sure the world's energy supply stays fluid and available?

What the FUCK is wrong with you people?

You want everybody else to do your fighting for you but you don't mind bellying up to the trough, do you?