International Law: Jerusalem Belongs To Israel

[ForeverYoung436]

Jews have lived there for millenia.

Name one Jew who lives in Israel, that can trace his ancestors back more than 100 years.

You know you can't.

neither Israeli or a jew so I would not know any individuals, but I can give other evidence

Picture a Day: The Everyday Life of Jews in Jerusalem's Old City 120 Years Ago

Jerusalem still pretty much looks that way today. Not much has changed in 150 years.

 

[flacaltenn]

That's correct.. And they called it Arab Palestine because that was the intention of the damn Brits who pompously engineered the map of the Middle East..

<< Edited to Add >> Phoenal is correct that "Arab Palestine" was all of Trans-Jordan.. But I'm not certain if any specific declaration of other Arab nations in the vicinity were ever suggested..

The "damn Brits", as you call them, were instrumental in the creation of the Jewish state.

You shouldn't assume that my strong support for the right of Israel to exist doesn't come with other notions of how this mess was created. I'm just not a big fan of Imperialism. And the idea that the Middle East could be subdivided over a cup a tea doesn't sit well with me.
These suits underestimated the task.

Likewise, I'm completely happy with the integration of Israeli Arabs into the state of Israel. But I'm dissappointed about an "occupation" going on for so long and so badly managed.

Truth be known, when Jordan ceeded it's rights to the West Bank, Israel SHOULD HAVE formally annexed that land and started the process of TEACHING development and political stability -- with the end result of eventually allowing it to become a "federated state" with a semi-autonomous government...

The mess that is there now is a classic case of TOO MANY COOKS in the kitchen.. Whereas the early British mistakes were a case of arrogance and underestimation...

 

[Victory67]

Truth be known, when Jordan ceeded it's rights to the West Bank, Israel SHOULD HAVE formally annexed that land and started the process of TEACHING development and political stability -- with the end result of eventually allowing it to become a "federated state" with a semi-autonomous government...

The mess that is there now is a classic case of TOO MANY COOKS in the kitchen.. Whereas the early British mistakes were a case of arrogance and underestimation...

I fully agree.

When Israel conquered the West Bank, they should have annexed all of it and given citizenship to its inhabitants. Jews and Arabs, living together, in a healthy democracy.

 

[Roudy]

Another massive fail child, don't you read the replies to your posts. The term arab Palestine takes in all of Iraq, Syria and Jordan. It was detailed on the maps produced for your sufferance

Iraq and Syria were part of Palestine?

Where do you get such Nazionist lies?

Palestine was called "southern Syria", dipshit. You know nothing about history.

 

[Victory67]

Palestine was called "southern Syria", dipshit. You know nothing about history.

Yeah, and Iraq was called Iraq.

 

[Roudy]

Can you name one palestinian muslim that can trace his ancestors back further than 3 generations. ?

But any Jew in Israel with the Cohen gene can trace his/her lineage back to Abraham.

In 1922 there were hundreds of thousands of Muslims in Palestine.

The vast majority of them were born there.

Not so, for the Jews.

All recent invaders from neighboring lands.

 

[Roudy]

Palestine was called "southern Syria", dipshit. You know nothing about history.

Yeah, and Iraq was called Iraq.

Iraq was called French mandate and before that it was called Mesopotamia.

You are pathetic. Butthurt67.

 

[Victory67]

Palestine was called "southern Syria", dipshit. You know nothing about history.

Yeah, and Iraq was called Iraq.

Iraq was called French mandate and before that it was called Mesopotamia.

You are pathetic. Butthurt67.

Iraq was under a British Mandate, not French. God you're an idiot.

Iraq was never part of Palestine.

That's a major fail on your part.

And no, there is no law giving Jerusalem just to the Jews.

 

[flacaltenn]

Truth be known, when Jordan ceeded it's rights to the West Bank, Israel SHOULD HAVE formally annexed that land and started the process of TEACHING development and political stability -- with the end result of eventually allowing it to become a "federated state" with a semi-autonomous government...

The mess that is there now is a classic case of TOO MANY COOKS in the kitchen.. Whereas the early British mistakes were a case of arrogance and underestimation...

I fully agree.

When Israel conquered the West Bank, they should have annexed all of it and given citizenship to its inhabitants. Jews and Arabs, living together, in a healthy democracy.

The difference between us is that it's not palatable for Israel to control that land in the long run.. So it should have DEVELOPED as a joint Arab/Israel partnership -- but with the goal of granting it semi-autonomy at a later date when the threats were neutralized.

I think what you're missing here is what Israel values that isn't reflected in Pali administered lands. The Palis don't really give a rip about economic development, infrastructure, or trade. You can physically SEE the difference as you cross the Gaza border. Changing the hostile standoff would require that Israel and it's supporters PROVIDE those amenities so that it's neighbors SHARE similiar values.. And then when they reject violence as a solution -- you can cut them loose.. Much cheaper and a lot less bloody than a 50 year occupation over primitive passion...

 

[Roudy]

Yeah, and Iraq was called Iraq.

Iraq was called French mandate and before that it was called Mesopotamia.

You are pathetic. Butthurt67.

Iraq was under a British Mandate, not French. God you're an idiot.

Iraq was never part of Palestine.

That's a major fail on your part.

And no, there is no law giving Jerusalem just to the Jews.

Hello again dipshit. How old are you? Iraq and Syria were part of the Ottoman Empire and after it collapsed they became part of the French mandate. Jordan and Israel also part of the Ottoman Empire became part of the British mandate. Which means none of these Muslim countries, cesspools of hatred and intolerance existed before WWI. Go open a history book before spouting off more Arab ignorance.

 

[Victory67]

Hello again dipshit. How old are you? Iraq and Syria were part of the Ottoman Empire and after it collapsed they became part of the French mandate. Jordan and Israel also part of the Ottoman Empire became part of the British mandate. Which means none of these Muslim countries, cesspools of hatred and intolerance existed before WWI. Go open a history book before spouting off more Arab ignorance.

Iraq was controlled by a British Mandate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_(mandate)

The Kingdom of Iraq under British Administration or Mandatory Iraq (Arabic: &#1575;&#1604;&#1575;&#1606;&#1578;&#1583;&#1575;&#1576; &#1575;&#1604;&#1576;&#1585;&#1610;&#1591;&#1575;&#1606;&#1610; &#1593;&#1604;&#1609; &#1575;&#1604;&#1593;&#1585;&#1575;&#1602;* Al-Antidab Al-Britaniy 'Ala Al-'Iraq) was created in 1921 following the 1920 Iraqi Revolt against the proposed British Mandate for Mesopotamia, and enacted via the 1922 Anglo-Iraqi Treaty.

 

[aris2chat]

There isn't one and you know it, just as there is no law giving Palestine to the muslims exclusively. But there is a law that give the Jews control over all the land of Palestine and the people who live there.

That is a lie. There is no law giving the Jews exclusive ownership of Palestine.

LLPOF ??? Is this the best you can do? You make a serious charge but offer no proof?
Childish rants yet again.
Phoenall has far more credibility over the years than you do. You really should stop the insults and defamation

 

[MJB12741]

Eh Vic, ever hear of Mesopotamia?

Palestine was called "southern Syria", dipshit. You know nothing about history.

Yeah, and Iraq was called Iraq.

 

[Victory67]

Eh Vic, ever hear of Mesopotamia?

Yup.

It was a British Mandate.

The Syrians had Lebanon and Syria, the Brits had Palestine, Jordan, and Mesopotamia/Iraq.

That was the whole of the Levant.

 

[MJB12741]

Hey Vic, remember this? "Iraq was called Iraq." Heh Heh!

Eh Vic, ever hear of Mesopotamia?

Yup.

It was a British Mandate.

The Syrians had Lebanon and Syria, the Brits had Palestine, Jordan, and Mesopotamia/Iraq.

That was the whole of the Levant.

 

[Victory67]

Hey Vic, remember this? "Iraq was called Iraq." Heh Heh!

Iraq/Mesopotamia was a British Mandate.

Just like Palestine and Transjordan.

The French had a mandate over Lebanon and Syria.

 

[Roudy]

Hello again dipshit. How old are you? Iraq and Syria were part of the Ottoman Empire and after it collapsed they became part of the French mandate. Jordan and Israel also part of the Ottoman Empire became part of the British mandate. Which means none of these Muslim countries, cesspools of hatred and intolerance existed before WWI. Go open a history book before spouting off more Arab ignorance.

Iraq was controlled by a British Mandate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_(mandate)

The Kingdom of Iraq under British Administration or Mandatory Iraq (Arabic: &#1575;&#1604;&#1575;&#1606;&#1578;&#1583;&#1575;&#1576; &#1575;&#1604;&#1576;&#1585;&#1610;&#1591;&#1575;&#1606;&#1610; &#1593;&#1604;&#1609; &#1575;&#1604;&#1593;&#1585;&#1575;&#1602;* Al-Antidab Al-Britaniy 'Ala Al-'Iraq) was created in 1921 following the 1920 Iraqi Revolt against the proposed British Mandate for Mesopotamia, and enacted via the 1922 Anglo-Iraqi Treaty.

Who gives a shat. Iraq was called Mesopotamia and it was Ottoman territory for 600 years, like most of the Middle East, before coming under British or French mandates. Bottom line is Arab savages had no problem with all the countries that were carved out of the collapsed Ottoman Empire, except for one, the JEWISH ONE. Which means that the reason this conflict exist is because if Arab / Muslim hatred and intolerance of the other and nothing else.

 

[Roudy]

Hey Vic, remember this? "Iraq was called Iraq." Heh Heh!

Iraq/Mesopotamia was a British Mandate.

Just like Palestine and Transjordan.

The French had a mandate over Lebanon and Syria.

But Iraq wasn't called Iraq, moron. Which means you know jack about jack.

 

[Victory67]

Iraq was called French mandate and before that it was called Mesopotamia.

You are pathetic. Butthurt67.

Hello again dipshit. How old are you? Iraq and Syria were part of the Ottoman Empire and after it collapsed they became part of the French mandate.

Who gives a shat. Iraq was called Mesopotamia and it was Ottoman territory for 600 years, like most of the Middle East, before coming under British or French mandates.

LOL!!! You're such an idiot!!!!!!

Not only are you wrong about Iraq/Mesopotamia being a French Mandate, but you're wrong about international law giving Jerusalem to Israel.

Go back to school.

 

[aris2chat]

Eh Vic, ever hear of Mesopotamia?

Yup.

It was a British Mandate.

The Syrians had Lebanon and Syria, the Brits had Palestine, Jordan, and Mesopotamia/Iraq.

That was the whole of the Levant.

bit your tongue! the french had a mandate that encompassed Lebanon and Syria.

Lebanon had aleppo and golan for some time. Lebanon had the shebba farms till 1949 when syria occupied it and lost it and the golan in war to Israel, but Lebanon was autonomous made up of principalities since the 16th century.