Intended or Unintended Consequences?

Annie

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I don't think I agree with all of his analysis, but there seems to be enough 'there' there:

http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009521

Two Alliances
President Bush has managed to divide and conquer the Middle East.

BY EDWARD N. LUTTWAK
Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:01 a.m. EST

It was the hugely ambitious project of the Bush administration to transform the entire Middle East by remaking Iraq into an irresistible model of prosperous democracy. Having failed in that worthy purpose, another, more prosaic result has inadvertently been achieved: divide and rule, the classic formula for imperial power on the cheap. The ancient antipathy between Sunni and Shiite has become a dynamic conflict, not just within Iraq but across the Middle East, and key protagonists on each side seek the support of American power. Once the Bush administration realizes what it has wrought, it will cease to scramble for more troops that can be sent to Iraq, because it has become pointless to patrol and outpost a civil war, while a mere quarter or less of the troops already there are quite enough to control the outcome. And that is just the start of what can now be achieved across the region with very little force, and some competent diplomacy.

On Dec. 4, 2006, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, head of Iraq's largest political party, went to the White House to plead his case with President Bush. The son of an ayatollah, and himself a lifelong militant cleric, Mr. Hakim is hardly a natural partner for the U.S.--while living in Iran for 23 years he must have declaimed "death to America" on many an occasion. But as the chief leader of Iraq's Arab Shiite population, he has no choice. Each day brings deadly Sunni attacks, and just as the Sunnis are strengthened by volunteers and money from outside Iraq, the Shiites, too, need all the help they can get, especially American military training for the Shiite-dominated army and police. For President Bush, the visiting Mr. Hakim brought welcome promises of cooperation against his aggressive Shiite rival Moqtada al-Sadr as well as the Sunni insurgents. It no longer even seems strange that the best ally of the U.S. in Iraq is Mr. Hakim's party, the Sciri: the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, whose very title evokes the Iranian model of radically anti-Western theocracy...
 
creating civil war was the plan stated in the pnac document not brining freedom and democracy ,its not hard to figure out just read the play book

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John F. Hylan quotes:
The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection


I cant help but notice there is no refuting the fact of the pnac plan and the stated desire for civil war in Iraq ,to divide the country in three ,to invade Iran next or there statement there plan would progress slowly without a helpful
pearl harbor like incident to win the support of the people

hers another quote from the tinfoil hat crew



Quote from Barry Goldwater


"The Trilateralist Commission is international...(and)...is intended to
be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and
banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the
United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful,
coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of
power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
 
John F. Hylan quotes:
The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection


I cant help but notice there is no refuting the fact of the pnac plan and the stated desire for civil war in Iraq ,to divide the country in three ,to invade Iran next or there statement there plan would progress slowly without a helpful
pearl harbor like incident to win the support of the people

hers another quote from the tinfoil hat crew



Quote from Barry Goldwater


"The Trilateralist Commission is international...(and)...is intended to
be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and
banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the
United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful,
coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of
power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
Here's a suggestion, start your own thread on PNC, trilateralist commission, whatever. Stop posting the same things on multiple threads.
 
Here's a suggestion, start your own thread on PNC, trilateralist commission, whatever. Stop posting the same things on multiple threads.

it is impossible to speak honestly about terrorism ,the war, politics,religion ,economics without addressing the true systems of control..its like discussing a play or a soap opera as if it is real


Quote from Barry Goldwater

The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful,
coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of
power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical
 
it is impossible to speak honestly about terrorism ,the war, politics,religion ,economics without addressing the true systems of control..its like discussing a play or a soap opera as if it is real


Quote from Barry Goldwater

The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful,
coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of
power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical
Once again, posting the same things on multiple threads is considered trolling at best. Since you keep sending people to the same sites, you are bordering on spamming.

You obviously feel strongly about some issues. Write about them on their own threads. People will argue with or against, or they won't.

What you are doing is annoying. If you persist, warning will be issued.
 
Once again, posting the same things on multiple threads is considered trolling at best. Since you keep sending people to the same sites, you are bordering on spamming.

You obviously feel strongly about some issues. Write about them on their own threads. People will argue with or against, or they won't.

What you are doing is annoying. If you persist, warning will be issued.

Ya I understand its like watching a movie to escape reality and having someone point out the flaws in the plot line or going to a wwf wrestling show and telling everyone its not real,,,same with this false left /right paradim..its only fun if everyone pretends
 

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