Independent Kurdistan taking shape

[Sally]

Maybe some day the Kurds will actually have their own country.


Independent Kurdistan taking shape
Neither Syria nor Iraq have effective and powerful central governments, which have in the past crushed Kurdish nationalist movements. Kurds smell the great opportunity for building an independent Kurdistan now

• Manish Rai
• July 01, 2015

Nearly a century after failing to achieve nationhood in the post-Versailles period, the Kurds are now on the move. A greater Kurdistan nation state taken from the four countries where Kurds are minorities is improbable, although greater autonomy is growing within Turkey and Syria if not Iran, and an independent Iraqi Kurdistan is becoming more likely by the day. Kurds who are scoring significant victories over Islamic State (IS) are by far the most effective force fighting IS in both Iraq and Syria. However, they appear intent on keeping all the ground they have taken from the notorious terrorist group for their own national project, endangering the larger cause of keeping these two battered nation states in one piece and raising the prospect of another war patiently waiting at the conclusion of the current one. There is no doubt that the Kurds are the mightiest ground force against IS today. The recent run of victories in Syria illustrates the Kurds’ battlefield capabilities. Six months after winning in Kobani, the Turkish border town where as many as 1,000 IS fighters died, Syrian Kurd fighters took another border town, Tel Abyad, creating a corridor on Syria’s northern border and, far more importantly, cutting off the main supply line to Raqqah, IS’s capital 60 miles due south. But all these efforts of the Kurds are also driven by the desire of achieving nationhood.


The Kurds fight so well largely because, in addition to trying to defeat an extremist enemy, they are fighting for something else: a country of their own. The future Kurdistan may be severely buffeted across Arab portions of the Middle East. Neither Syria nor Iraq have effective and powerful central governments, which have in the past crushed Kurdish nationalist movements. Kurds smell the great opportunity for building an independent Kurdistan now. The Kurds, despite their large numbers — about 30 million worldwide — as well as their shared language, culture and identity, have never had a nation and were divided in four countries in the Sykes-Picot Agreement created after World War I by the UK and France. However, they are getting closer to one nation with every victory in the battlefield. In Iraq, Kurdish forces armed by both Iran and the US have taken perhaps 10,000 square miles from IS since last fall. They also snapped up the disputed city of Kirkuk, rich in oil and cultural significance to the Kurds and Arabs alike, and are preventing Arabs from returning to some villages. Houses are marked “Reserved for Kurds,” and Kurdish checkpoints declare, “No Arabs allowed”.

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Independent Kurdistan taking shape?

 

[montelatici]

Erdogan does a Netanyahu!

"Erdogan Vows Turkey Will 'Never Allow' Kurdish State in Syria"


"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey will never allow the establishment of a Kurdish state in Syria after major gains by Kurdish fighters.

In a strong-worded warning late on Friday, Erdogan accused the Kurds of ethnically cleansing other communities from land they have taken after pushing back Islamic State forces from the Turkish border.

"I say to the international community that whatever price must be paid, we will never allow the establishment of a new state on our southern frontier in the north of Syria," Erdogan was quoted by Turkish media as telling guests at a dinner to break the Ramadan fast.

Erdogan Vows Turkey Will Never Allow Kurdish State - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva

 

[Roudy]

^^^^^^
Whereas the Kurdish people truly have a 3000 year history in the region, Palestinians are an invented people, having no comparison culturally or historically to the Kurds.


A 364 of 3 September 1947


163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.


166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.

 

[Sally]

Erdogan does a Netanyahu!

"Erdogan Vows Turkey Will 'Never Allow' Kurdish State in Syria"


"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey will never allow the establishment of a Kurdish state in Syria after major gains by Kurdish fighters.

In a strong-worded warning late on Friday, Erdogan accused the Kurds of ethnically cleansing other communities from land they have taken after pushing back Islamic State forces from the Turkish border.

"I say to the international community that whatever price must be paid, we will never allow the establishment of a new state on our southern frontier in the north of Syria," Erdogan was quoted by Turkish media as telling guests at a dinner to break the Ramadan fast.

Erdogan Vows Turkey Will Never Allow Kurdish State - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva

Sure looks like Haniya doesn't want these ancient people of 70,000 million to finally get their own state. She is working so hard being on a forum mornings, afternoons and nights trying to convince the readers that the so-called "Palestinians" of a much, much lesser number should have a state of their own and that Israel is so very bad because it has land which Haniya believes belongs to her friends. She conveniently forgets that her buddies came from impoverished surrounding countries for jobs that the Jews had for them, much the same way we see those poor migrants trying to get to Europe for jobs. There is so much acreage in the Arab lands, but people like Haniya don't want to see a very ancient people as the Kurds have any of it to set up their own country. Along the same line, it bothers here that the Jews have such a tiny portion of the Middlle East.

 

[Roudy]

Haniya and co. have been on this site an average of 20 hours per day the last three days, vomiting the usual garbage, lies, and Jew hate. How many Haniya's there are using this screen name, allah only knows.

 

[Sally]

Haniya and co. have been on this site an average of 20 hours per day the last three days, vomiting the usual garbage, lies, and Jew hate. How many Haniya's there are using this screen name, allah only knows.

Roudy, that boiler room is a very busy place. Can you imagine how many message boards on the Internet they are vomiting out their garbage?

 

[Roudy]

Haniya and co. have been on this site an average of 20 hours per day the last three days, vomiting the usual garbage, lies, and Jew hate. How many Haniya's there are using this screen name, allah only knows.

Roudy, that boiler room is a very busy place. Can you imagine how many message boards on the Internet they are vomiting out their garbage?

Apparently it's under new management. They fired Sherry for being a failure and horrible propagandist, and hired a bunch of assholes to man this new screen name called MonteNazi.