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Where on earth did you guys get the idea that libertarians are for tariffs or any other form of protectionism? They are for a minimalist gov't with the least amount of gov't intervention, and that includes free trade.
I see I need to start a thread on protectionism, followed by one on free trade. Not sure if many around here fully realize the negatives of the former and the positives of the latter.
I saw a self-proclaimed libertarian noob (Mr. Nick), blathering on about how we need to "tariff the shit" out of Chinese imports.
Just trying to set him and others of like mind straight on the subject. But I think he put me on ignore for calling him a naughty word so I guess his ignorance shall remain unabated.
But whatcha gonna do?
Notwithstanding the fact that if you asked ten different self-proclaimed libertarians what libertarians stand for, you'd get ten different answers, textbook Libertarianism strongly opposes all import tariffs.
Look it up.
And then have fun trying to reconcile this fact with your own, poorly manufactured idea of what it means to be a libertarian.
Low taxes... is an ideal shared by all libertarians.
Except of course for those that advocate tariffs.
In my experience, many who happily promote free trade (count me among them) and free movement of capital and resources suddenly raise strong objection when that principle is expanded to labor. the free market, it seems, is often not extended to labor.
Notwithstanding the fact that if you asked ten different self-proclaimed libertarians what libertarians stand for, you'd get ten different answers, textbook Libertarianism strongly opposes all import tariffs.
Look it up.
And then have fun trying to reconcile this fact with your own, poorly manufactured idea of what it means to be a libertarian.
Who are you referring to? I'm a libertarian, and I oppose all tariffs. I don't know any libertarians who support tariffs. I know plenty of conservatives and liberals who do, however.
I saw a self-proclaimed libertarian noob (Mr. Nick), blathering on about how we need to "tariff the shit" out of Chinese imports.
Just trying to set him and others of like mind straight on the subject. But I think he put me on ignore for calling him a naughty word so I guess his ignorance shall remain unabated.
But whatcha gonna do?
I have no problem with free trade INSIDE the United States. However, as a nationalist and an isolationist I have major issues with free trade coming into and going out from the United States. Regardless of whether its capital, resources, labor, etc...
Who are you referring to? I'm a libertarian, and I oppose all tariffs. I don't know any libertarians who support tariffs. I know plenty of conservatives and liberals who do, however.
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I saw a self-proclaimed libertarian noob (Mr. Nick), blathering on about how we need to "tariff the shit" out of Chinese imports.
Just trying to set him and others of like mind straight on the subject. But I think he put me on ignore for calling him a naughty word so I guess his ignorance shall remain unabated.
But whatcha gonna do?
who is "mr nick?"
jafa
who is "mr nick?"
jafa
Who the hell is "jafa?" I searched the list of users, and I didn't find that name.
In my experience, many who happily promote free trade (count me among them) and free movement of capital and resources suddenly raise strong objection when that principle is expanded to labor. the free market, it seems, is often not extended to labor.
Of course not. Do you want a billion people to emigrate to the United States? Free movement of capital doesn't affect my standard of living. Hoards of people moving into this country does.
Of course not. Do you want a billion people to emigrate to the United States? Free movement of capital doesn't affect my standard of living. Hoards of people moving into this country does.
IOW you're not a libertarian.
Where on earth did you guys get the idea that libertarians are for tariffs or any other form of protectionism? They are for a minimalist gov't with the least amount of gov't intervention, and that includes free trade.
I see I need to start a thread on protectionism, followed by one on free trade. Not sure if many around here fully realize the negatives of the former and the positives of the latter.
I saw a self-proclaimed libertarian noob (Mr. Nick), blathering on about how we need to "tariff the shit" out of Chinese imports.
Just trying to set him and others of like mind straight on the subject. But I think he put me on ignore for calling him a naughty word so I guess his ignorance shall remain unabated.
But whatcha gonna do?
In my experience, many who happily promote free trade (count me among them) and free movement of capital and resources suddenly raise strong objection when that principle is expanded to labor. the free market, it seems, is often not extended to labor.
Of course not. Do you want a billion people to emigrate to the United States? Free movement of capital doesn't affect my standard of living. Hoards of people moving into this country does.
Of course not. Do you want a billion people to emigrate to the United States? Free movement of capital doesn't affect my standard of living. Hoards of people moving into this country does.
IOW you're not a libertarian.
A large percentage of libertarians oppose open borders and support strict immigration controls. Supporting freedom for Americans does not require me to support allowing people from every other country in the world to move here.
thhwho is "mr nick?"
jafa
Who the hell is "jafa?" I searched the list of users, and I didn't find that name.
A billion people would not move to the United States if we allowed free movement of labor.
And actually, free movement of capital DOES affect your standard of living. It makes it higher. Free movement of labor would do the same thing.
A large percentage of libertarians oppose open borders and support strict immigration controls. Supporting freedom for Americans does not require me to support allowing people from every other country in the world to move here.
Have you done a survey?
Even if true, that only means a large percentage of narco-libertarians are hypocrites, believing in freedom for themselves but not other people. But that's hardly news to those of us conservatives who have observed the narco-libs for some time now.
What would stop them? There are a billion people in India who would move here at the drop of a hat if they were allowed to.Of course not. Do you want a billion people to emigrate to the United States? Free movement of capital doesn't affect my standard of living. Hoards of people moving into this country does.
A billion people would not move to the United States if we allowed free movement of labor.
