Images of Africa

Discussion in 'Africa' started by Saigon, Jun 23, 2012.

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    I am comparing conditions. Not the circumstances under which they got on the ship. Slaves got on the ship because they were captured by black people and sold into slavery by black people. The descendants of those slaves have much better living conditions today than the descendants of Africans who were never captured by their black countrymen, nor sold by their black countrymen.
     
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    I can't say they should be grateful, but they should at least recognize that Africa is a place largely of crushing and grinding poverty and likely to fall into some sort of war with the slightest of sparks. Here, poverty means an EBT card and the grocery store, in Africa it's standing in line at a UN feeding station waiting for a bowl of rice. If given the choice today, Africans will leave and come to the very country that has a history of dragging them here in chains. In fact Africans will go anywhere they can get to if given the chance.
     
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    Gee, I wonder if anyone can figure out what you were really trying to say in that post... :rolleyes:

    You're a disgrace.
     
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    I do take your point, but I think suggesting people were better off as slaves than as free men is close to being offensive. It's not something I hear many black people saying.

    But I agree that poverty in the US in 2012 is not the same as poverty in Somalia in 2012.
     
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    If you get right down to it. An American slave in 1870 was better off than someone in 2012 Somalia.

    Although a slave in 1870 Haiti had it worse than even in 2012 Somalia! Those French were the most brutal of any other slave holding cultures. Absolutely horrible.
     
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    As appalling as Somalia in 2012 is, I don't think anyone can say a slave is "better off" than anyone anywhere who has freedom.

    Conditions in Haiti and Brazil may have been worse than in the US, by and large, but even so, very many black slaves died of overwork and brutality.
     
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    This is my lasy post for a while...I'm heading to the airport then fly to Accra (Ghana) tonight, and then on to Sierra Leone on Tuesday.

    See you all in a few weeks!
     
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    I do hope you take lots of good pictures and post them.
     
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    Good riddance.
     
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    I'm back....I took some amazing pictures, and will post a few when I have time.

    Needless to say, being in Liberia was quite an experience! (And not always a good one!)
     

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