Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by Bonnie, Dec 27, 2006.
War is not the answer, foreign policy based on bumper sticker slogans is.
Well this is the age old question. I remember when 9/11 had occurred after a few weeks I got this article sent to me from a friend in the Bay Area and it was these people from Berkley saying we deserved to be attacked, yet had the west coast gotten a piece of the action would they stood up and agreed we needed attacked? Or would we on the East Coast send slanders over saying we deserved this? I doubt it, even in WWII it had it's skeptics on the role in the war. But we didn't have the media giving us second guess to the decisions that Washington was doing for starters nor did we have these experts getting up and counter acting everything we were trying to achieve either. Seems to me history has been written and we may have limited power at making some changes but over all I believe we will just have to ride it out. And when you have all these anti-war people making such big stands against war and further more not standing up against muslim hatred then what do we do? Until the world really speaks out against these moron clerics then all that can happen is more hate and war. And what about foreign policy? If a nation cant take an aggressive stand against what it believes as real threats then what good is it?
Reminds me of something a liberal relative of mine was talking about at our christmas gathering. He is a huge Neil Young fan, and he brought up the "great album" he just did about impeaching Bush over the so called "illegal Iraq war.. I could have said many things but for the sake of family peace, and the fact that God himself must have put his hand over my mouth I simply said isn't he Canadian, gee maybe he should be more concerned about his country's parliamentary shenanigans!!
Yes very true, it's amazing how one can distance themselves from the realities of life and at the same time impart their cliched wisdom to us from their car bumper......so very gutsy
See that is totally amazing what illegal war? Saddam had one thing going for him. And that was he kept the people down and that was a good thing really. But Saddam had to be dealt will sooner or later he was a loose cannon and he would have taken over the Middle East eventually. He was taunting us in Desert Storm if you look back at it. I would almost bet it was a plan to get the world support and the support from places like France and Germany they have no backbone so after 11 years of playing Childs play we insist on the invasion and since france and germany had interest in iraq they bailed out. I do believe many things should have been done different; but there weren't and since we didn't close the borders off it was free game. I believe the iraqis are very lazy and that can be given credit to Saddam on that. But the mind of the liberals and this really weird out look of we are the world and spread peace and love hog wash is really frigging odd. I'm not a war machine but I don't want to back down either.
Mistakes are made with every war, it seems the bar now for illegal war terminology is set by Kofi, and France et al, who would wait till the Eifell Tower and half of paris was fire bombed before they would even consider any show of force, and even then I have my doubts...
Ya know, I think I've figured out the real reason why Ebeneezer Scrooge hated Christmas..... he was a conservative and he had liberal relatives like yours that he had to listen to over Christmas turkey.... no wonder he was so cranky! Same here, I avoided Christmas partly because I didn't want to listen to Bush bashing and Republican bashing by my relatives....
What the f*** is with this freaking "illegal war" BS?
1. Section 7 of the US Constitution that the Senate has the power to
"To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water; "
2. Bush asked for and got Senate approval to go to war before hostilities
3. Kofi Annan called this an illegal war.
4. Kofi Annan does not work for the United States government, has not been elected by the American people, appointed by any elected or appointed official of the United States government.....
So, why is this an illegal war? And if this war is illegal, then why isn't the theft of nearly 20 Billion dollars under Kofi Annan's watch NOT illegal? And what about all those sexual assaults by United Nations "peacekeepers" in Africa? I guess they must think they're there to get a piece instead of keeping the peace, huh? .
I get it.... wars waged under Republian Presidents are illegal, but plunder on a scale not dreamed of by the Nazis or the Communists by unelected officials of the United Nations isn't. Yes, rape of children isn't illegal, either.... just so long as it's the UN that's doing it
Back in elementary school, we used to play a nasty trick on each other. Someone would come up to you, slap you on the back and ask "how's it going?"... when he actually was doing it to tape a sign on your back that said "Kick Me, I'm Stupid"....
I think liberal bumper stickers are an updated version of the "kick me, I'm stupid" signs, except they're self inflicted!
War is an answer sometimes, but not all the time. WW II was justified in that there were grave injustices being extracted all over Europe and within our own backyward (i.e. Pearl Harbor). Hell, going into Afghanistan was justified. I remember writing a poem to praise it at the time (no, I don't have it). But sometimes diplomacy is something that should be tried, but the problem is you can never tell when it might work.
And for the record, I'd support a war with Iran.
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