If voting for republicans is better, why is the south still so poor?

Hows that virus hitting those good folks in Fla??? Beaches full ,no masks???

Doing pretty well. It looks to me like states in the NE are doing much worse. You know, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, you get the idea.

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BY TARA LAW

JULY 26, 2020 11:10 AM EDT
The number of COVID-19 cases recorded in Florida has now passed New York, leaving the Sunshine State with the second-most coronavirus cases in the nation, trailing only California.
As of yesterday more than 414,000 people have been diagnosed with COVID-19 in Florida, according to a tracker maintained by researchers at Johns Hopkins University. Florida’s number passes the 411,000 cases recorded so far in New York. California, the nation’s most populous state, has had the most coronavirus cases since last week; as of Saturday, it had more than 446,000 cases. While COVID-19 cases surged in the northeast early this spring, Florida appeared to have missed the worst impact of the pandemic. However, the state’s fortunes appeared to shift after the state rapidly ended its lockdown in May.
These grim milestones reflect the shift of the epicenter of the pandemic to the Sunbelt. While the spread of the virus in New York and New Jersey dropped in May and have remained low, the virus has spread rapidly in places like California, Arizona and Texas.

Once again, deaths per million?
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Because a few of us understand how climate & location directly influences economic conditions. On topic, you should build a 7-11 in the antarctic, I hear they don't even have one.

I know where you can buy lots of property on the cheap. All you need is a big ass tank of water and consistent deliveries.
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Yada, yada, yada. And the responsible, Southern States have fiscal responsibility, unlike the Democrat states.
LOL Blue states pay up and red states suck it up ,,,get more money back than they pay in
What were all suck it up the tax breaks for taxes, mortgages and the such that individuals get/got in those blue cities until Trump bobbed it a bit? The standard of living is higher because the money was there earlier in the formation of our nation. Those red states are next on the massive wealth list. Just waiting.
Love to see red paying their fair share It'll be a first

Why don't you push for a cut in Federal spending first?
That's a great thing My problem is Trump would cut medi care SS and anything else he could hurt hard working people with

You should push for better cuts. Post them here so we can discuss.
 
Come on kaz you know trump is a lowlife POS You can just say he's your lowlife POS Honesty is the best policy

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Yeah he gets things done Divided the country worse than ever before Ruined our relationships with used to be foreign allies ,most unemployment in over a 100 years and our childrens futures are screwed because of his spending 6 bankrupt companies and you morons gave him the key to our treasury
And Todd why do you think not even American banks would loan him a dime? Bet Putin got him some loans

And Todd why do you think not even American banks would loan him a dime?

Why?

Bet Putin got him some loans

And?
 
Jesus say
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

The South is poor? How many decades has it been since you were here?
I try to avoid them Can't stand redneck hill billy's Last time I was there were white only drinking fountains white bathrooms for men and women One bathroom for all blacks

So seventy years ago. Got it!
If so You really think people changed ? That their racism wasn't handed down from parent to child ? You're all still racists only now a black person can drink from the same water fountain as you
If a child is 3 or 4 and respectful when meeting people and then gets to 7 or 8 and is calling a person of another race nasty names, somebody has to be teaching him or her. People do not want to be around the constant threat of violence.
 
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They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.
You would have to tell them they are poor, when you can hunt for food, build a house, when you have freedom money isn’t a big deal

LOL. That is so true, but few people can actually pull that off. My son graduated from college a couple of years ago. He is doing very well. He is an engineer scientist, world class. But he had a roommate, had close to a 4.0 average, civil engineering. He got laid off about a year ago. He lives in a family cabin that is about two hundreds years old, back in the mountains. He hunts for his food. The cabin is on a river, and he uses the river to generate his electricity. He lives in the boonies but has 1 gig internet connection through Google. He gardens, is pretty much self-sufficient, and has used his unemployment compensation to build a pretty nice stock market portfolio. But I got to tell you, that is extremely rare. And that feller is sure as hell not going to vote for Trump.
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

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Now let's look at the regional.
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And before you say it's just Blacks
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And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
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They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
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And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
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And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?
No slums in NYC, Detroit or LA...that's just a Right Wing CONSPIRACY!
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
povertyratesbyraceethnicity2018_450px.png


And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?

In comparison to the deep south, yes they are. Even most of the "Homeless" has jobs in those big cities. And the Children will probably be given at least one good meal a day even from something like the Lizard Wagon program. The same can't be said for the shanty and shack dwellers in the south.
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
povertyratesbyraceethnicity2018_450px.png


And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?

In comparison to the deep south, yes they are. Even most of the "Homeless" has jobs in those big cities. And the Children will probably be given at least one good meal a day even from something like the Lizard Wagon program. The same can't be said for the shanty and shack dwellers in the south.

Democrats are such bigots. You should visit the south. The countryside looks a whole lot like the countryside in Michigan
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
povertyratesbyraceethnicity2018_450px.png


And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?

In comparison to the deep south, yes they are. Even most of the "Homeless" has jobs in those big cities. And the Children will probably be given at least one good meal a day even from something like the Lizard Wagon program. The same can't be said for the shanty and shack dwellers in the south.

Democrats are such bigots. You should visit the south. The countryside looks a whole lot like the countryside in Michigan

I've been there. I've been stationed there. And once you get off the well traveled roads, it changes. And yes, if you don't look too closely, the South looks wonderful. But below that veneer.....
 
Exactly. Those red states are red because republicans are the majority. At least in theory.

So if the state is red the majority of the residents are republicans. Which means it's not democrats or blacks who are causing the red states to be poor.

Democrats have nearly no power to do anything in those states. It's all controlled by republicans who have turned those states into high welfare and high poverty states.
Exactly wrong. DENIAL to the hilt. Once again, >> The south is poor because it's loaded with blacks who live by a culture of ignoring education, jobs, or entrepreneurship, and merely look for how much they can suck out of the govt in welfare. Bingo! Their numbers drag down the state averages in economics, and raise them in crime numbers.
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
povertyratesbyraceethnicity2018_450px.png


And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?

In comparison to the deep south, yes they are. Even most of the "Homeless" has jobs in those big cities. And the Children will probably be given at least one good meal a day even from something like the Lizard Wagon program. The same can't be said for the shanty and shack dwellers in the south.

Democrats are such bigots. You should visit the south. The countryside looks a whole lot like the countryside in Michigan

I've been there. I've been stationed there. And once you get off the well traveled roads, it changes. And yes, if you don't look too closely, the South looks wonderful. But below that veneer.....

Another white elitist bigot, you're a dime a dozen
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
povertyratesbyraceethnicity2018_450px.png


And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?

In comparison to the deep south, yes they are. Even most of the "Homeless" has jobs in those big cities. And the Children will probably be given at least one good meal a day even from something like the Lizard Wagon program. The same can't be said for the shanty and shack dwellers in the south.

Democrats are such bigots. You should visit the south. The countryside looks a whole lot like the countryside in Michigan

I've been there. I've been stationed there. And once you get off the well traveled roads, it changes. And yes, if you don't look too closely, the South looks wonderful. But below that veneer.....

Another white elitist bigot, you're a dime a dozen

So you got bagged on this one. Try to get over your butthurt.
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.

Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.

First of all, rural areas have a much higher rate of poverty than the metro areas. Specifically, the Red State Rural Areas have a much higher poverty rate than any other areas. All races, marital status, ages and more are at the poverty level. And anyone at the poverty level qualifies for some form of assistance.

In the Economic Community, there is an area that is quite large and sweeping they call the Black Belt. It's not just Blacks. It's also made up of whites and other races. It sweeps from WV, all the way down to Northern Florida and into Texas. To call it squalid would be "Conservative" at best. There are families living there with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no heating, no cooling, and the car they have is on blocks because they can't afford to fix something as simple as a water pump. Meals consist of one meal a day, maybe. These people are just overlooked. Not counted. They don't vote because they have no way of getting to a voting booth and no way of knowing whom to vote for. The jobs available to them are spotty and part time at best. Minimum wage is something they never experience nor have ever heard of. Time has stood still for these people. They still live in 1932.


Rural Poverty & Well-Being

povertyratesbyresidence2018_450px.png


Now let's look at the regional.
povertyratesbyregion2018_450px.png


And before you say it's just Blacks
povertyratesbyraceethnicity2018_450px.png


And the majority of the people on Welfare are under the age of 18
povertyratesbyage2018_450px.png

All those big city ghettos are rich as shit, huh?

In comparison to the deep south, yes they are. Even most of the "Homeless" has jobs in those big cities. And the Children will probably be given at least one good meal a day even from something like the Lizard Wagon program. The same can't be said for the shanty and shack dwellers in the south.

Democrats are such bigots. You should visit the south. The countryside looks a whole lot like the countryside in Michigan

I've been there. I've been stationed there. And once you get off the well traveled roads, it changes. And yes, if you don't look too closely, the South looks wonderful. But below that veneer.....

Another white elitist bigot, you're a dime a dozen

So you got bagged on this one. Try to get over your butthurt.

When you're an elitist bigot like you are about the South, you've already proven your butt hurt.

Again I've worked in several Southern States in technology and finance and it compares fine to where I've lived in New England, New York, California and the midwest and you're just full of shit, elitist snob. It's great here
 
They love them some Trump, but red states are hotbeds for low wages and welfare assistance. I’m not sure how voters reconcile that.
In case you weren’t aware, there is a substantial black population in the South, and they all vote Dem.
Um okay but that doesn’t change the fact that they are red states lol
Why would a red state waste its resources on a blue district or city? The Dems would just squander it.

Have you explained why welfare is still so high in big cities in blue states?
Welfare is higher in red states.
So is the black population
 
If voting for republicans is better, why is the south still so poor?

Threads like this remind me what a pompous, partisan, uneducated idiot you are. It isn't that the south are poor, there are poor people in every state, what makes the south seem poorer than most other states is really the ABSENCE OF RICH PEOPLE and STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT! Rich people choose where they live and they choose to live in big cities and ideal property, the kind mostly found along the east and west coasts with comfortable climates and nice geography, not hot, sweaty, and by economic development, and the area of the south just doesn't offer the ideal place for most big industries to incorporate.

Without the inflow of investment capital, you don't have wealth, jobs, opportunity, and so have a higher percentage of low income It's not a matter of who is in office, if it were, then why didn't the south get rich under Obama? Look at most of the states of the south, and they are just not ideal places for the things which infuse an area with great capital, not from technology, manufacturing or even agriculture.
Since the industrial revolution, the north has been urban & industrial while the south has been rural & agrarian. South has become more industrialized over time, but the basic dichotomy still exists.
 
Detroit
Chicago
Baltimore
New York
Minneapolis
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Memphis

There are poor in the rural south as well as the densely populated urban cities mentioned above. To answer your question, the red states stay red because while they are poor, they don’t want the additional corruption and violence that come with cities and states under Democrat control.
Better to be poor in Tampa, Orlando, Montgomery, than rich in Portland, Seattle, New York, Chicago. :biggrin:
 

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