I was told by Democrats that Unemployment Benefits would stimulate the Ecomony?

[Rodack]

Like Tarp 2, Cash for Welfare, Shovel ready Welfare, Student loan takeovers, Car industry takeovers, Change for hope, hope for Change, change for changey hope. Poverty Up? Foreclosures Up? Food Stamps At A RECORD HIGH after 3 years of ObamaSocialism?




African American unemployment at 26%






Did Democrats lie?

 

[Rodack]

Debt........................................Debt.............................and failure



Obamanomics

 

[uscitizen]

Yeah think of where the economy would be without the unemployment benefits all being pumped back into it.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

We've been told a great many things by the Democrats. They've most all been 180 degrees out of phase with reality.

Oh well.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yeah think of where the economy would be without the unemployment benefits all being pumped back into it.

Think where the economy would be if all those people were working for more than sub-minimum wage and not sucking tax dollars and actually paying tax dollars.

Yup.

 

[Rodack]

So Slums and Ghettos are good for the economy?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

So Slums and Ghettos are good for the economy?

Sure they are. Central City here in New Orleans is booming! Well, at least the crack and heroin trade is booming.

 

[Flopper]

Like Tarp 2, Cash for Welfare, Shovel ready Welfare, Student loan takeovers, Car industry takeovers, Change for hope, hope for Change, change for changey hope. Poverty Up? Foreclosures Up? Food Stamps At A RECORD HIGH after 3 years of ObamaSocialism?




African American unemployment at 26%






Did Democrats lie?

The economy is always being pushed up by positive forces and down by negative forces. Unemployment benefits are a positive force because it increases consumer spending. The net effect depends on the amount of negative forces pushing the economy down such as falling real estate prices.

 

[Rodack]

Like Tarp 2, Cash for Welfare, Shovel ready Welfare, Student loan takeovers, Car industry takeovers, Change for hope, hope for Change, change for changey hope. Poverty Up? Foreclosures Up? Food Stamps At A RECORD HIGH after 3 years of ObamaSocialism?




African American unemployment at 26%






Did Democrats lie?

The economy is always being pushed up by positive forces and down by negative forces. Unemployment benefits are a positive force because it increases consumer spending. The net effect depends on the amount of negative forces pushing the economy down such as falling real estate prices.

So taking from the productive and giving to democrats create jobs?



But wait?


Real Unemployment is up

Poverty is up


Foreclosures are up




the economy is dying





but more welfare maybe will stir things up

 

[uscitizen]

Yeah think of where the economy would be without the unemployment benefits all being pumped back into it.

Think where the economy would be if all those people were working for more than sub-minimum wage and not sucking tax dollars and actually paying tax dollars.

Yup.

Working at what jobs?

I deal more in reality than you do.

Without unemployment benefits we would likely be in a depression by now.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

So Slums and Ghettos are good for the economy?

And food stamps. Don't forget the food stamps.

 

[Flopper]

Yeah think of where the economy would be without the unemployment benefits all being pumped back into it.

Think where the economy would be if all those people were working for more than sub-minimum wage and not sucking tax dollars and actually paying tax dollars.

Yup.

I am thinking where the country would be with millions more people living in abject poverty adding to the welfare rolls. However, it would solve one problem. The rest of the world would be taking advantage of the cheap American labor. Wasn't this the Republican plan?

 

[Cuyo]

So Slums and Ghettos are good for the economy?

Sure they are. Central City here in New Orleans is booming! Well, at least the crack and heroin trade is booming.

Incidentally, crack and heroin trade *DOES* stimulate the economy. Not that it's good policy.

 

[uscitizen]

So Slums and Ghettos are good for the economy?

And food stamps. Don't forget the food stamps.

sure, basically every dollar spent on food stamps is funneled right back into the retail food industry.

So in a way it is corporate welfare.

 

[Rodack]

Democrat handouts create generational poverty?



Proving that if you tax productivity, you get less production.
If you subsidize poverty, you get more poverty?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yeah think of where the economy would be without the unemployment benefits all being pumped back into it.

Think where the economy would be if all those people were working for more than sub-minimum wage and not sucking tax dollars and actually paying tax dollars.

Yup.

I am thinking where the country would be with millions more people living in abject poverty adding to the welfare rolls. However, it would solve one problem. The rest of the world would be taking advantage of the cheap American labor. Wasn't this the Republican plan?

No. What plan are you reading?

 

[uscitizen]

Historically speaking we had more growth during periods of higher taxes.
I am speaking of real growth, not only stock market growth.

 

[Flopper]

Like Tarp 2, Cash for Welfare, Shovel ready Welfare, Student loan takeovers, Car industry takeovers, Change for hope, hope for Change, change for changey hope. Poverty Up? Foreclosures Up? Food Stamps At A RECORD HIGH after 3 years of ObamaSocialism?




African American unemployment at 26%






Did Democrats lie?

The economy is always being pushed up by positive forces and down by negative forces. Unemployment benefits are a positive force because it increases consumer spending. The net effect depends on the amount of negative forces pushing the economy down such as falling real estate prices.

So taking from the productive and giving to democrats create jobs?



But wait?


Real Unemployment is up

Poverty is up


Foreclosures are up




the economy is dying





but more welfare maybe will stir things up

Unemployment benefits puts money in the hands of people who will spend it which creates a need for more jobs. It may or may not counteract the forces pushing the economy down, but without the benefits consumer spending is less which makes things worse.

 

[Flopper]

Think where the economy would be if all those people were working for more than sub-minimum wage and not sucking tax dollars and actually paying tax dollars.

Yup.

I am thinking where the country would be with millions more people living in abject poverty adding to the welfare rolls. However, it would solve one problem. The rest of the world would be taking advantage of the cheap American labor. Wasn't this the Republican plan?

No. What plan are you reading?

For more than 30 years Republicans have done everything they could to drive down the cost of labor by breaking the unions, voting against unemployment benefits, trying to abolish minimum wage, changing the wage and hour laws, and even trying to weaken child labor laws. There is no written plan. It's not needed. Every action the Republicans take is aimed at cutting the cost of labor.

 

[Publius1787]

Like Tarp 2, Cash for Welfare, Shovel ready Welfare, Student loan takeovers, Car industry takeovers, Change for hope, hope for Change, change for changey hope. Poverty Up? Foreclosures Up? Food Stamps At A RECORD HIGH after 3 years of ObamaSocialism?




African American unemployment at 26%






Did Democrats lie?

Those transfer payments do stimulate the economy just as private spending does. However, the money multiplyer is lower when the government does it, it destroys private investment, and businesses who need loans are crowded out by government borrowing as the money demanded increases the interest rates.