How to Avoid a Discussion on the Race Relations Forum

Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by Unkotare, May 29, 2018.

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    This is a curious forum in that almost no one who posts here is interested in a discussion.

    Monologue, lecture, insult, venting, emoting, and lying seem to make up 99% of what goes on here.
     
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    I'm interested in discussing race relations with the goal of fostering a better understanding of the state of race relations today in the United States and how we got here. Although it would probably be more honest to state that I'm interested [edit] in debating the issues than merely discussing them.
     
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    The time to debate the subject is long past. Honest discussion is the only thing that might yield results. I'm not sure many are willing to do that.
     
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    Why do you believe this?

    I looked into the difference between discussing an issue and debating it and I think the following fairly covers things for the most part:

    Socratic Seminar as Dialogue vs. Debate
    The best Socratic Seminars are those in which something new and unexpected is discovered. This happens
    when the seminar is approached as a joint search or exploration through dialogue rather than a defense of ideas

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    Your list is exactly why I say time for debate is long gone. Confrontation hasn't and won't do any good. It might be entertaining, but it won;t solve our problems.
     
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    Entertaining for whom?
     
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    After posting this I went back to review it and realized I don't agree with a portion of the items on the Debate side (in blue) although there is a particular poster whom meets just about every single item listed (and he's not the OP). So how's this for a compromise?

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    You can't have your own personal definitions. Those things are known results of debate.
     
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    MLK used a method of direct confrontation that was non violent. It worked. It's the only thing that has ever worked.
     

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