How gullible is the U.S.

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    One of the greatest faults that the U.S. has now is that in some respects we are one of the most gullible nations on the Earth. We want to believe the best about other people in the world and that is one of the biggest problems we have with Israel.

    The Israelis say they want peace and we believe them. The Israelis say they are open to a two state solution and even though all of the evidence says differently we believes them. With their settlements and their setting aside land for the future expansion of those settlements, it is now estimated that they have control of 50% of the land of the West Bank. With their destruction of Palestinian wells ( that have been there for centuries ) and their confiscation of water rights they now control 70 to 90% of the water in the west bank. This control of the water will effectively remove the Jordan Valley as an economic resource from the future Palestinian State which will reduce the GDP of that state by approximately 1,000,000,000 dollars. The Israeli only roads effectively subdivide the new state so that economic functions cannot exist. In other words the Israelis are doing their utmost to make a Palestinian State nonviable.

    The thought of a One State Solution is dead on arrival as no one in their right mind thinks that the Israelis would give the franchise to the Palestinians as that would make the dream of a Jewish State impossible.

    So what is the Zionists solution to the problem. Believe it or not it is pretty simple they want to ethnically cleanse the area of Palestinians ( who they consider to be less then them ). If we weren't so gullible we would have understood this a long time ago.

    I will put up some Quotes to illustrate my point.

    IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME BELIEVE THEM !!!



    "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
    -- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.


    "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
    -- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988


    "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
    -- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.


    "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

    -- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing T
    somet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.


    WHY DO WE ACCEPT THE GARBAGE THAT ISRAEL EITHER WANTS OR WILL ACCEPT A TWO STATE SOLUTION
     
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    We are far more gullible about our own country.
     
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    Oh, another I hate Jews thread.

    carry on........
     
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    John F. Kennedy, "Salute To Israel"
    Lebanese American Fouad Ajami, Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is co-chair of the Hoover Working Group on Islamism and the International Order
    Barack Obama...
     
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    That's true, of course, confirmed by memorable words of Basam Tibbi "The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other." Doooh.
    Why won't schmucky judophobes mention that it was related to Ramle, because jews didn't want armed arab thugs in the rear? Besides that time arabs were called arabs and not palistanians. A spade's a spade, of course.
    Those who doesn't accept "garbage" are invited to accept palistanians. That's humanitarian.
     
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    Jews!
     
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    OK now that you have disected one quote how about you take a swing at the others !

    "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
    -- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988


    "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
    -- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.


    "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

    -- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998
     
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    Arab-American Dr. Wafa Sultan, Human Rights Activist, Among "Time Magazine's 100 Heroes and Pioneers Whose Power, Talent Or Moral Example Is Transforming Our World"

    Wafa Sultan - The 2006 TIME 100 - TIME.

    Israel - The One And The Only Free Democratic Country In The Entire Middle East.
     
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    No links, then your quotes have no credibility
     
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    Please don't post large sections of text in red. Red is the color Moderators use for editing posts and this could lead to undue confusion.
     
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