How Can We Stop Future Stolen Elections?

National Legislation can accomplish it. They can mandate proper securing and counting of the ballots, with observers on hand from all interested parties, armed security with the power to arrest, and continuous vote counting until completed.

Unfortunately that's unconstitutional. The federal government gives states the right to choose their electors and how to handle their elections. I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is.
What do you make of Article I Section 4 of the Constitution that covers Elections?

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations...

Although the Elections Clause makes states primarily responsible for regulating congressional elections, it vests ultimate power in Congress. Congress may pass federal laws regulating congressional elections that automatically displace, or preempt, any contrary state statutes, or enact its own regulations concerning those aspects of elections that states may not have addressed. Our Framers were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress, altogether, so they empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.

Congress has exercised its power to “make or alter” rules concerning congressional elections, and some of its laws lie at the very heart of the modern electoral process. It has established a single national Election Day for congressional elections, and mandated that states with multiple Representatives in the U.S. House divide themselves into congressional districts, rather than electing all of their Representatives at-large. Congress also has enacted statutes limiting the amount of money that people may contribute to candidates for Congress, requiring that people publicly disclose most election-related spending, mandating that voter registration forms be made available at various public offices, and requiring states to ensure the accuracy of their voter registration rolls.

The power of states and Congress to regulate congressional elections under the Elections Clause is subject to express and implicit limits. Fundamentally, neither entity can enact laws under the Elections Clause that violate other constitutional provisions. For example, the Constitution specifies that anyone who is eligible to vote for the larger house of a state legislature may vote for the U.S. House and U.S. Senate as well. The Elections Clause does not permit either the states or Congress to override those provisions by establishing additional qualifications for voting for Congress.

Likewise, the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the fundamental right to vote, barring states from needlessly imposing substantial burdens on the right. When a law specifies that a person must satisfy certain requirements or follow certain procedures in order to vote, a court must determine whether it is a reasonable regulation of the electoral process under the Elections Clause, or instead undermines the right to vote. Laws requiring people to register to vote in advance of elections or mandating that they vote at their assigned polling places are exactly the types of restrictions that the Elections Clause permits.

The Constitution also specifies age, residency, and citizenship requirements to run for the House or Senate. Individuals who satisfy those requirements cannot be prohibited from running for office for failing to satisfy other qualifications. States can, however, impose reasonable ballot access restrictions that a candidate must fulfill in order to appear on the ballot, such as submitting a petition signed by a certain number of registered voters. The Supreme Court has aggressively enforced this restriction by invalidating various attempts to impose term limits on Members of Congress. In U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton (1995), the Court held that the Elections Clause did not permit a state to refuse to print on the ballot the names of candidates for the U.S. House who already had served three terms there, or the names of candidates for the U.S. Senate who had already served two terms.

The Supreme Court has explained that the Elections Clause also imposes implicit restrictions on the power to regulate congressional elections. Neither Congress nor the states may attempt to dictate electoral outcomes, or favor or disfavor certain classes of candidates. In Cook v. Gralike (2001), the Court struck down a provision that required election officials to print a special warning on the ballot next to the name of any candidate for Congress who refused to support an amendment to the U.S Constitution that would impose term limits for Congress. The Court explained that the provision exceeded the state’s power under the Elections Clause because it was “plainly designed” to favor candidates who supported term limits, while placing others at a disadvantage.

One unusual feature of the Elections Clause is that it does not confer the power to regulate congressional elections on states as a whole, but rather the “Legislature” of each state. The Supreme Court has construed the term “Legislature” extremely broadly to include any entity or procedure that a state’s constitution permits to exercise lawmaking power. Thus, laws regulating congressional elections may be enacted not only by a state’s actual legislature, but also directly by a state’s voters through the initiative process or public referendum, in states that allow such procedures.

The Court also has held that a legislature may delegate its authority under the Elections Clause to other entities or officials. A few states have chosen to transfer power to draw congressional district lines from their respective legislatures to non-partisan or bipartisan “independent redistricting commissions.” These states believe that such commissions can make the electoral process more fair by preventing voters from being divided into congressional districts in ways that unduly protect existing officeholders (“gerrymandering”).

In summary, congressional elections are conducted under a complicated mix of state and federal laws, reflecting the Elections Clause’s division of authority between state legislatures and Congress.

 
National Legislation can accomplish it. They can mandate proper securing and counting of the ballots, with observers on hand from all interested parties, armed security with the power to arrest, and continuous vote counting until completed.

Unfortunately that's unconstitutional. The federal government gives states the right to choose their electors and how to handle their elections. I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is.
What do you make of Article I Section 4 of the Constitution that covers Elections?

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations...

Although the Elections Clause makes states primarily responsible for regulating congressional elections, it vests ultimate power in Congress. Congress may pass federal laws regulating congressional elections that automatically displace, or preempt, any contrary state statutes, or enact its own regulations concerning those aspects of elections that states may not have addressed. Our Framers were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress, altogether, so they empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.

Congress has exercised its power to “make or alter” rules concerning congressional elections, and some of its laws lie at the very heart of the modern electoral process. It has established a single national Election Day for congressional elections, and mandated that states with multiple Representatives in the U.S. House divide themselves into congressional districts, rather than electing all of their Representatives at-large. Congress also has enacted statutes limiting the amount of money that people may contribute to candidates for Congress, requiring that people publicly disclose most election-related spending, mandating that voter registration forms be made available at various public offices, and requiring states to ensure the accuracy of their voter registration rolls.

The power of states and Congress to regulate congressional elections under the Elections Clause is subject to express and implicit limits. Fundamentally, neither entity can enact laws under the Elections Clause that violate other constitutional provisions. For example, the Constitution specifies that anyone who is eligible to vote for the larger house of a state legislature may vote for the U.S. House and U.S. Senate as well. The Elections Clause does not permit either the states or Congress to override those provisions by establishing additional qualifications for voting for Congress.

Likewise, the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the fundamental right to vote, barring states from needlessly imposing substantial burdens on the right. When a law specifies that a person must satisfy certain requirements or follow certain procedures in order to vote, a court must determine whether it is a reasonable regulation of the electoral process under the Elections Clause, or instead undermines the right to vote. Laws requiring people to register to vote in advance of elections or mandating that they vote at their assigned polling places are exactly the types of restrictions that the Elections Clause permits.

The Constitution also specifies age, residency, and citizenship requirements to run for the House or Senate. Individuals who satisfy those requirements cannot be prohibited from running for office for failing to satisfy other qualifications. States can, however, impose reasonable ballot access restrictions that a candidate must fulfill in order to appear on the ballot, such as submitting a petition signed by a certain number of registered voters. The Supreme Court has aggressively enforced this restriction by invalidating various attempts to impose term limits on Members of Congress. In U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton (1995), the Court held that the Elections Clause did not permit a state to refuse to print on the ballot the names of candidates for the U.S. House who already had served three terms there, or the names of candidates for the U.S. Senate who had already served two terms.

The Supreme Court has explained that the Elections Clause also imposes implicit restrictions on the power to regulate congressional elections. Neither Congress nor the states may attempt to dictate electoral outcomes, or favor or disfavor certain classes of candidates. In Cook v. Gralike (2001), the Court struck down a provision that required election officials to print a special warning on the ballot next to the name of any candidate for Congress who refused to support an amendment to the U.S Constitution that would impose term limits for Congress. The Court explained that the provision exceeded the state’s power under the Elections Clause because it was “plainly designed” to favor candidates who supported term limits, while placing others at a disadvantage.

One unusual feature of the Elections Clause is that it does not confer the power to regulate congressional elections on states as a whole, but rather the “Legislature” of each state. The Supreme Court has construed the term “Legislature” extremely broadly to include any entity or procedure that a state’s constitution permits to exercise lawmaking power. Thus, laws regulating congressional elections may be enacted not only by a state’s actual legislature, but also directly by a state’s voters through the initiative process or public referendum, in states that allow such procedures.

The Court also has held that a legislature may delegate its authority under the Elections Clause to other entities or officials. A few states have chosen to transfer power to draw congressional district lines from their respective legislatures to non-partisan or bipartisan “independent redistricting commissions.” These states believe that such commissions can make the electoral process more fair by preventing voters from being divided into congressional districts in ways that unduly protect existing officeholders (“gerrymandering”).

In summary, congressional elections are conducted under a complicated mix of state and federal laws, reflecting the Elections Clause’s division of authority between state legislatures and Congress.


Not sure about this one. I mean, if Congress did have such power, why didn't they outlaw Voter-ID when Democrats had total control of Congress with a Democrat President? Why didn't Republicans outlaw mail-in voting or motor voter laws? I think if such changes were made, there would probably be constitutional challenges right up to the Supreme Court.
 
National Legislation can accomplish it. They can mandate proper securing and counting of the ballots, with observers on hand from all interested parties, armed security with the power to arrest, and continuous vote counting until completed.

Unfortunately that's unconstitutional. The federal government gives states the right to choose their electors and how to handle their elections. I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is.
What do you make of Article I Section 4 of the Constitution that covers Elections?

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations...

Although the Elections Clause makes states primarily responsible for regulating congressional elections, it vests ultimate power in Congress. Congress may pass federal laws regulating congressional elections that automatically displace, or preempt, any contrary state statutes, or enact its own regulations concerning those aspects of elections that states may not have addressed. Our Framers were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress, altogether, so they empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.

Congress has exercised its power to “make or alter” rules concerning congressional elections, and some of its laws lie at the very heart of the modern electoral process. It has established a single national Election Day for congressional elections, and mandated that states with multiple Representatives in the U.S. House divide themselves into congressional districts, rather than electing all of their Representatives at-large. Congress also has enacted statutes limiting the amount of money that people may contribute to candidates for Congress, requiring that people publicly disclose most election-related spending, mandating that voter registration forms be made available at various public offices, and requiring states to ensure the accuracy of their voter registration rolls.

The power of states and Congress to regulate congressional elections under the Elections Clause is subject to express and implicit limits. Fundamentally, neither entity can enact laws under the Elections Clause that violate other constitutional provisions. For example, the Constitution specifies that anyone who is eligible to vote for the larger house of a state legislature may vote for the U.S. House and U.S. Senate as well. The Elections Clause does not permit either the states or Congress to override those provisions by establishing additional qualifications for voting for Congress.

Likewise, the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the fundamental right to vote, barring states from needlessly imposing substantial burdens on the right. When a law specifies that a person must satisfy certain requirements or follow certain procedures in order to vote, a court must determine whether it is a reasonable regulation of the electoral process under the Elections Clause, or instead undermines the right to vote. Laws requiring people to register to vote in advance of elections or mandating that they vote at their assigned polling places are exactly the types of restrictions that the Elections Clause permits.

The Constitution also specifies age, residency, and citizenship requirements to run for the House or Senate. Individuals who satisfy those requirements cannot be prohibited from running for office for failing to satisfy other qualifications. States can, however, impose reasonable ballot access restrictions that a candidate must fulfill in order to appear on the ballot, such as submitting a petition signed by a certain number of registered voters. The Supreme Court has aggressively enforced this restriction by invalidating various attempts to impose term limits on Members of Congress. In U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton (1995), the Court held that the Elections Clause did not permit a state to refuse to print on the ballot the names of candidates for the U.S. House who already had served three terms there, or the names of candidates for the U.S. Senate who had already served two terms.

The Supreme Court has explained that the Elections Clause also imposes implicit restrictions on the power to regulate congressional elections. Neither Congress nor the states may attempt to dictate electoral outcomes, or favor or disfavor certain classes of candidates. In Cook v. Gralike (2001), the Court struck down a provision that required election officials to print a special warning on the ballot next to the name of any candidate for Congress who refused to support an amendment to the U.S Constitution that would impose term limits for Congress. The Court explained that the provision exceeded the state’s power under the Elections Clause because it was “plainly designed” to favor candidates who supported term limits, while placing others at a disadvantage.

One unusual feature of the Elections Clause is that it does not confer the power to regulate congressional elections on states as a whole, but rather the “Legislature” of each state. The Supreme Court has construed the term “Legislature” extremely broadly to include any entity or procedure that a state’s constitution permits to exercise lawmaking power. Thus, laws regulating congressional elections may be enacted not only by a state’s actual legislature, but also directly by a state’s voters through the initiative process or public referendum, in states that allow such procedures.

The Court also has held that a legislature may delegate its authority under the Elections Clause to other entities or officials. A few states have chosen to transfer power to draw congressional district lines from their respective legislatures to non-partisan or bipartisan “independent redistricting commissions.” These states believe that such commissions can make the electoral process more fair by preventing voters from being divided into congressional districts in ways that unduly protect existing officeholders (“gerrymandering”).

In summary, congressional elections are conducted under a complicated mix of state and federal laws, reflecting the Elections Clause’s division of authority between state legislatures and Congress.

...Not sure about this one. I mean, if Congress did have such power, why didn't they outlaw Voter-ID when Democrats had total control of Congress with a Democrat President?...
Who knows? There are so many things they didn't do during the two years they had complete control, other than push through Obama-care, I think that probably the best explanation is that Dems always think that their being in total control is the natural state of the universe and therefore likely to last forever, so they lose all sense of urgency.
... Why didn't Republicans outlaw mail-in voting or motor voter laws? I think if such changes were made, there would probably be constitutional challenges right up to the Supreme Court...
And with a consequentialist majority, the Supreme Court likely would have torn holes in it, but, for the first time in 85 years, we finally have a traditional textualist SCOTUS that very likely would uphold clearly constitutional legislation.

But would Congress even pass it? They love to pass the buck to Administrative Agencies and then distance themselves from actions of the Administrative Agencies, who can only take the actions because Congress passes them lawmaking power in legislative language.

Gorsuch wrote a good book "A Republic If You Can Keep It" on this that is contemporary enough that it covers his first year on the Court, it's a fairly easy read, I picked it up on Amazon and read it on my smart phone with a kindle app, but he has several chapters on this sort of thing and the importance of returning the 3 branches back to their Constitutional lanes. The Legislature legislates, writing laws that proscribe future behavior, the Executive Branch, exercises their inherent power and executes legislation as written, and the Judicial branch applies the law and constitution to past facts, they do not write new law.

Right now everyone writes law, the Judiciary, the Executive Agencies and the Legislature. No one takes responsibility for anything, everyone points fingers at the other branches and shrugs their shoulders, and the result is a dizzying array of laws and regulations so complex and convoluted that no can seriously be expected to remain in conformity with it. Scalia was starting to develop this line of thought in his decisions, that our current legal doctrine of "ignorance of the law is no excuse" is an unrealistic expectation, given that the Congressional Research Office in answer to the query of "How many felonies have been created by Administrative regulation (rather than Legislation) and their reply was that there are so many that they don't even know how to even attempt to start such a count. Scalia's point was that the Federal government cannot even count the number of felonies they have created, how in the world does a citizen possibly conform their behavior to ensure a lawful existence?

To come back to point, until we finally had a majority textualist court rather than a majority consequentialist court, national election legislation that wasn't a progressive fruit basket probably wasn't possible, but it should be now.
 
Who knows? There are so many things they didn't do during the two years they had complete control, other than push through Obama-care, I think that probably the best explanation is that Dems always think that their being in total control is the natural state of the universe and therefore likely to last forever, so they lose all sense of urgency.
... Why didn't Republicans outlaw mail-in voting or motor voter laws? I think if such changes were made, there would probably be constitutional challenges right up to the Supreme Court...
And with a consequentialist majority, the Supreme Court likely would have torn holes in it, but, for the first time in 85 years, we finally have a traditional textualist SCOTUS that very likely would uphold clearly constitutional legislation.

But would Congress even pass it? They love to pass the buck to Administrative Agencies and then distance themselves from actions of the Administrative Agencies, who can only take the actions because Congress passes them lawmaking power in legislative language.

Gorsuch wrote a good book "A Republic If You Can Keep It" on this that is contemporary enough that it covers his first year on the Court, it's a fairly easy read, I picked it up on Amazon and read it on my smart phone with a kindle app, but he has several chapters on this sort of thing and the importance of returning the 3 branches back to their Constitutional lanes. The Legislature legislates, writing laws that proscribe future behavior, the Executive Branch, exercises their inherent power and executes legislation as written, and the Judicial branch applies the law and constitution to past facts, they do not write new law.

Right now everyone writes law, the Judiciary, the Executive Agencies and the Legislature. No one takes responsibility for anything, everyone points fingers at the other branches and shrugs their shoulders, and the result is a dizzying array of laws and regulations so complex and convoluted that no can seriously be expected to remain in conformity with it. Scalia was starting to develop this line of thought in his decisions, that our current legal doctrine of "ignorance of the law is no excuse" is an unrealistic expectation, given that the Congressional Research Office in answer to the query of "How many felonies have been created by Administrative regulation (rather than Legislation) and their reply was that there are so many that they don't even know how to even attempt to start such a count. Scalia's point was that the Federal government cannot even count the number of felonies they have created, how in the world does a citizen possibly conform their behavior to ensure a lawful existence?

To come back to point, until we finally had a majority textualist court rather than a majority consequentialist court, national election legislation that wasn't a progressive fruit basket probably wasn't possible, but it should be now.

President Trump had concerns about election theft even before he became President. Like Obama, he had the power of the entire federal government to change state election laws if he wanted. He didn't, the Republican House didn't, and neither did the Republican Senate. In spite of what you posted, I don't think it would be that easy to do and would meet a lot of challenges along the way to the Supreme Court. Would a more constitutional Supreme Court rule in the Republicans favor? Who knows, especially when the court is operated by Benedict Roberts.

The Democrats are talking about doing just about anything to secure power forever: making vote by mail a standard in their states, getting PR and DC to become states giving them four more guaranteed Senators, expanding the Supreme Court to get more commie judges on it. It seems like they will use every trick in the book to maintain or gain power, even if it's against the will of the people. So if they could do anything to state election systems, I think they would.

The one entity you left out about making laws unconstitutionally are the bureaucracies. They've been making laws, assessing fines and penalties for decades.
 
This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
This is a lie.

The 2020 General Election was not ‘stolen.’

When the counting was stopped, the Vote Fairy dropped millions of Biden votes into the system
 
The key to stopping future "stolen elections" is to nominate sane candidates who won't promote idiotic conspiracy theories just because they lost.

Of course. How could anybody think there was a conspiracy when the most boring candidate in 25 years ran for office, many believe has dementia, associated with an FBI investigation, not have record voter turnout, especially against a great President? Makes perfect sense to me.
 
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Barr has been compromised, how did they get to him or who got to him ???
 
How Can We Stop Future Stolen Elections?
First we need to stop the steal in this election. At this point the Flynn plan to declare martial law and redo the elections in AZ, GA, MI, PA, and WI appears to be the best solution.
Second, we need to stop putting polling stations in ghettoes.
 
This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
 
This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

It doesn't really matter if Donald Trump really won or not. The reason, the enemy is in power now and they aren't about to give it up.
 
This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

1. Get rid of mail-in ballots
2. Mandate Election Photo Id
3. Mandate all voting rosters be confirmed/cleaned 3 months out
4. Pass a law stripping people their right to vote in any capacity in future elections or participate in any future elections as a deterent

This is a good start
 
This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

The former president is a small boy crying for his lost toy.
 
This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

1. Get rid of mail-in ballots
2. Mandate Election Photo Id
3. Mandate all voting rosters be confirmed/cleaned 3 months out
4. Pass a law stripping people their right to vote in any capacity in future elections or participate in any future elections as a deterent

This is a good start
And the republics claim to be a growing party, yet seek to limit voting....
 
Have us based Mossad assets take out those who conspired to cheat to install traitor Joe....
 

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