Hmmm the Plot Thickens NSDIC says Ice THICKER.. By a LOT!

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    Interesting that you should mention sea ice, Walleyes.

    http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

    As you can see, the average of the sea ice has been consistantly below the mean for most of the last decade. Especially evident when you compare it to all the previous decades on that graph. In fact, since the Antarctic ice is two deviations above the norm, where must the Arctic Ice be to neutralize that figure? And if the Arctic Ice is that low, why is that? After all, you just posted a link claiming the Arctic Temps are lower than normal.
     
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    Oh gee old fraud. I don't know. Maybe the point I'm making is that claiming any year to year temperature, or sea ice level, or ocean temperatures is pretty much useless. Year to year weather reports while interesting are in themselves pretty meaningless. One must collect the data and then after several years (decades in fact) you can see what the world was doing.

    Maybe the point I'm making is the world works on a much SLOWER scale than mankind does. Maybe the fact that the planet is oh gee I don't know four and a half BILLION years old is actually relevant? Maybe the fact that trees are, oh gee, living on a much slower time scale than man does (kind of like how cats and dogs live their lives 7 times faster than we do) might actually mean something.

    Naaawww it couldn't be that now could it?
     
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    Old rockhead foiled again........
     
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    Are you referring to the bit in that link about the Antarctic?


     
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    You seriously want us to consider 31 years worth of data as significant in regards the Earth?
     
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    No, just significant to the human population on Earth. The Earth has seen many extinction events, most due to rapid climate change. It is about 4.53 billion years old, while the human species, Homo Sap, is only about 200,000 years old.

    And at no other time in our history have we had 7 billion people dependent on large scale agriculture. Agriculture that can be severely impaired by rapid swings in the climate.
     
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    By the way, Walleyes, that is extent, not thickness.
     
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    Ooooooopsie!!
    Arctic Ice Volume Has Increased 25% Since May, 2008 | Watts Up With That?
     
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