High Prices & Cheap Labor

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    Going over the fiscal cliff is Democrat doublespeak for “We welcome another Great Depression.” And why not? The Great Depression gave Democrats their operating strategy: “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” The “good” crisis in the 1930s turned Americans away from individual liberties and towards big government.

    The Great Depression was fertile ground for utopian promises made by Socialists/Communists. Handing their freedoms to big government was the biggest mistake Americans made in the 1930s. Fight for more liberties and less government is the only way for Americans to beat Democrats at their own game when they push the economy over the cliff.

    Never mind that WWII —— not socialism —— ended the Great Depression. Today’s Socialists/Communists see another major economic crisis as a golden opportunity to frighten Americans, and the world, into surrendering what’s left of their freedoms.

    NOTE: The only difference between socialism and communism is how each one gets to totalitarian government. Socialists do it incrementally, while Communists prefer violent revolution. Communist prefer violent revolution until they are opposed with violence —— then they holler human rights, democracy, and every piece of philosophical garbage they can think up to stop violence being done to them. Unless Senator Murray is a complete idiot she had to know she threatened violence:


    Hoyer: Dems' 'fiscal cliff' threat different than last year's Republican default ploy
    By Mike Lillis - 07/17/12 02:58 PM ET

    Hoyer: Dems' 'fiscal cliff' threat different than last year's Republican default ploy - The Hill's On The Money

    Even if Democrats and Republicans compromise for a short time —— cheap labor and high prices will push America over the cliff.

    Cheap labor is the Holy Grail in economics. Open-borders, illegal immigration, and outsourcing jobs are the best methods to use when cheap labor becomes official government policy.

    Buy low and sell high is the Holy Grail on Wall Street. Basically, Democrats do whatever it takes to insure that labor is bought low and sold high at the retail level. Under no circumstances will the government let competition determine the price of anything.

    The federal government is not alone when it comes to manipulating prices. State legislators pass laws that say this or that product may not be sold below a certain price in the state. California wine is one example. California wines are cheaper in NY than then they are in California. Hell, if you’re planning on a wine-tasting tour in order to buy some wine don’t go to Napa Valley go to NY.

    The irony in Murray’s threat is this: If she gets the crisis she wants Socialists will have to face the fact that more and more Americans cannot afford to buy the products they make because of socialism’s commitment to cheap labor and high prices. Workers unable to purchase the products they make was one of the most effective rallying cries Socialists and labor unions shouted from the rooftops in the early part of the 20th century.

    In time, not being able to afford food irrespective of huge farm subsidies will take hold. The growing number of Americans on food stamps is the tip of the crisis Democrats are engineering.


    The thing to remember is that Socialists planned equal distribution of poverty on a global scale a long time ago. They well-knew the day would come when working Americans could no longer buy the products the government IMPORTS even though those products were made by cheap labor in foreign countries. Once that happens Socialists can claim success for implementing equal distribution of poverty. Tens of millions of Americans will be reduced to the same living conditions one sees among the poorest in Third World countries.

    Guessing which foreign country America will become has been a popular parlor game for a decade or two. European countries usually get the nod. That is understandable but incorrect.

    Long before the ugly specter of multiculturalism raised its ugly head everybody still believed America would always be America. Everybody except me. While in Calcutta fifty or so years ago I had a premonition that someday America would become India in that great poverty would permanently coexist with great wealth. Back then, approximately four percent of India’s population controlled the wealth, while it was one percent in America. I believe those numbers are still in effect.

    India never had a private sector middle class to speak of, while America’s private sector middle class is being systematically dismantled by taxation. My point: When cheap labor and high prices combine with America’s vanishing middle class it won’t be long before America becomes India economically and culturally.

    Lest I be accused of immigrant-bashing let me point out that after many generations of immigrants from India coming to America they do not have the numbers, or the influence, to bring about a cultural change of the magnitude I’m indicating. Indeed, no single group of immigrants ever acquired that kind of clout when America was a melting pot. Monumental cultural change has to be rooted elsewhere.

    I’m suggesting that in addition to the government’s policy of cheap labor and high prices, a large unemployed pool of unskilled and semi-skilled labor to draw upon when needed is necessary to guarantee both cheap labor and great wealth.

    Finally, “collectivist” ideology and moral claptrap almost tripled America’s population since the Great Depression. Democrats are still working to keep the borders open. Think about it.
     
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    if WW 2 ended the Great Depression then people would be calling for the same amount of government spending today to end this depression.

    The only one calling for it is Krugman! He's the man who said the Internet would be about as importnat as the fax machine!
     
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    To EdwardBaiamonte: Socialist people are calling for more tax & spend as things get worse in spite of bailouts, stimulus packages, and the monumental tax bill that comes with Hillarycare II. To them it’s a win/win situation.


    Either they get the tax increases they want or they collapse the economy and hopefully stampede the American people into accepting absolute government control.

    To EdwardBaiamonte: I don’t get your point.
     
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    Here’s an example of high food prices:

    Back in the early fifties Ronnie Gilbert of the Weavers could have been singing to Hussein:

    I walked down the street to the grocery store
    It was crowded with people
    Both rich and both poor
    I asked the man how his butter was sold
    He says one pound of butter for two pounds of gold

    So Long (It's Been Good To Know You) - The Weavers - (Lyrics needed) - YouTube
     
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    Granny says dey's takin' advantage of the recession, rippin' people off...
    :mad:
    Americans Paying Dearly for Payday Loans
    7/20/12 --- Ready for another toxic byproduct of the weak U.S. economy?

     
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    it is that conservatives and libertarians are right!!
     
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    Wow. A post made up of Ed and someone even more ignorant.
    You guys love libertarianism. Have you an example of a libertarian economy that we should envy?
    Of course you do not. There are none. Never have been. In every attempt, the population rebels well before any such economy can get there. But I am sure that won't stop you from pushing those libertarian ideals. Makes the wealthy much more wealthy, which means it makes your leaders much more wealthy.
    Tea party dogma slingers.
     
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    To EdwardBaiamonte: Okay. I see it now. I was a bit confused because of your WW 2 analysis. I’m still not sure how you tie your first and second paragraphs together?

    To Rshermr: How original! A liberal halfwit telling someone else what they are. Had you researched my messages you would know that I am not a Libertarian or a Republican.

    I advocate a return to limited government; i.e., a return to the laissez faire economy that made America the wealthiest, most envied country ever seen not to mention the most individual liberties and the highest standard of living for the most people. Socialists/Communists feed off of the very form of government they would replace with oppression in the name of the common good.

    Since you ask for an example perhaps you can give me an example of a Communist economy envied by no one except totalitarian butchers and tax dollar parasites.
     
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    Excuse the interruption, but what caused the Great Depression?
    Overzealous speculation and a ridiculous form of capitalism.
    If there was a reaction against that, wouldn't it be considered normal?
    The present situation is the same. Crazy profiteers destroyed their own precious pyramid scheme and the 'normal' people were left to collective the losses. You don't need to be a leftist to want to change things.
     
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    So Abe Lincoln was a communist/socialist, who would have thought?
    He was the first president to start the income tax for the feds to help pay for the Civil War.
     

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