Comrade
Senior Member
r2200t said:Yes that is brutal.. but again, it won't happen in the majority of Muslim countries..
I meant the hanging wouldn't happen in other countries.. Egypte has changed for the worst. Muslims are shutting down churches and making life intollerable for Christians. It's spiraling out of control (imo)
Just out of curiousity, did your move have something to do with that?
A quick look at the list of countries will show that elections take place in many Muslim countries. And Equal rights are there as well for a few.
Turkey was one I saw right off and would agree... lemme check the rest and get back to you. Offhand I'd say of the 61, less than 10 and perhaps even only five are truly democratic and grant equal rights in practice, regardless of sex, race, religion, or creed.
I agree that most governments do not follow the democratic model etc.. and this IMO must Change. However, it is not the scope of this discussion.
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack the thread.
Living among them is not as hard as you might think.. There are many Americans living in Muslim run countries. Just remember only a few Muslim Countries ban women from beaches, or force women to wear head scarfs...These are other wrong propaganda steriotypes...
I think they feel safer in the West than any Westerner would feel among them... just my impression.
You must understand that demonifying ALL Muslims and making them look different than we are, makes it much more acceptable for us to digest the rising 13,000 civilian death toll in Iraq and to pursue th war on terror at any cost.
Disingenous... we've saved far more lives over the time since our invasion than the Iraqis have ever managed to preserve in the same time period while living under Saddam. And in addition, those killed are less often those innocent slaughtered and more often fanatic followers of either his old regime or those who aspire to rule by fiat without democracy. We have the either/or choice, of US invasion vs. Saddam's hedgemony, not US invasion vs. 'perfect harmony'.
See if CNN/ABC/CBC/Disney/BBC/CBS/Global/NBC/AOL/Times/etc.../etc../etc.. and the rest of the Jewish run media empire showed you the real picture in Iraq, of caring family oriented people, who's kids love to play nintendo and soccer, who's daughters go to school, a country where more women had university degrees than men...THEN and only then, you would be able to relate to the Iraqi way of life. And studies show that people care about those they relate to. But if you imagine them ALL as hand chopping wife beaters who are a bunch of terrorists, then who cares?? 13,000 civilians is nothing.
I don't understand... are you saying life was wonderfull while Saddam waged war first on Iran, and then on Kuwait, and all the while upon the Shi'ites and Kurds of his own, at the cost of millions, and yet life was great and serene?
Plus, the Jewish media aspect is really not going to win points here. You then have to explain how ABC/NBC/BBC/AOL/TIMES is not actually liberal and biased against what is supposed to be a Jewish driven war and all that. And you can't, don't even pretend. You will look like an anti-semite.