Here's Why They Hate America and Israel

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    1. We could look at the Hebrew Bible for the origin of the conflict between transnationalists and independent sovereigntists, as many in the West consider ancient Israel to be first self-governing political entity. It is the prototype of the sovereign nation and independent state, facing a succession of imperial foes.
    From "Sovereignty or Submission," John Fonte




    2. Ancient Israel faced the transnational empires, Babylonian, Egyptian, and not to forget, fought a series of conflicts with the imperial forces of Greece and Rome. Amazingly, although under imperial rule for thousands of years, it was reconstituted as a democratic nation-state in the twentieth century!

    3. Reading the works of Western elites, one finds less empathy for the ancient Hebrews, or modern Israelis for that matter, than for the transnationals who have tried to subjugate them.

    a. And, in that connection, what is the proper weight that should be accorded to biblical law’s promoting, for example, tolerance for minorities?
    Leviticus 19:34 The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

    b. Prominent transnationalist, and president of the Brookings Institution, Strobe Talbot, finds the ancient Hebrews “warlike,” but the “Babylonian kings and Egyptian pharaohs…in important respects, just and tolerant rulers and pioneers of the novel idea that peace was preferable to war among god-kings.: Talbot, “The Great Experiment: The Story of Ancient Empires, Modern States, and the Quest for a Global Nation,” p. 43.




    4. Why advance this view of ancient, and modern Israel? Because globalists realize that Israel is a roadblock to the global governance agenda- historically, intellectually, symbolically, culturally, morally, religiously, and strategically. The struggles of ancient and modern Israel have served as inspiration for those who esteem self-government. If the political transnational project is to success, Israel must be taken down.

    5. The inspiration was particularly strong among the Founders of the American republic. The most widely read book in 18th century America was the King James Bible, and the situations of the revolutionaries was commonly compared to the Babylonian captivity, the Exodus, David vs. Goliath, and the book of Deuteronomy. The republic was often called “the new Israel.”

    a. “A couple of months after American colonists declared their independence from Great Britain, a committee composed of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams proposed a design for a national seal. It portrayed the Egyptian pharaoh leading his troops through a divided Red Sea in pursuit of the fleeing Israelites. Surrounding this scene were the words, “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
    http://www.sbl-site.org/assets/pdfs/TB6_Exodus_SL.pdf

    b. Dr. Banfield, in 1783: ’Twas [God] who raised a Joshua to lead the tribes of Israel in the field of battle; raised and formed a Washington to lead on the troops of his chosen States. ’Twas He who in Barak’s day spread the spirit of war in every breast to shake off the Canaanitish yoke, and inspired thy inhabitants, O America!” http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/21PbAr/Hst/US/AmericanismGelernter.htm\





    6. In a magnificent speech, called “A Sermon on the Commencement of the Constitution,” delivered October 25, 1780, Samuel Cooper reminds that the Bible informed the new American republic, and its Constitution, and

    “To mention all the passages in sacred writ which prove that the Hebrew government, tho’ a theocracy, was yet as to the outward part of it, a free republic, and that the sovereignty resided in the people,… Abstracted from those appendages and formalities which were peculiar to the Jews, and designed to answer some particular purposes of divine Providence, it points out in general what kind of government infinite wisdom and goodness would establish among mankind.” A Sermon on the Commencement of the Constitution by Samuel Cooper




    Leftists. progressives, Democrats, socialists, environmentalists, feminists, communists, ....in short, totalitarians of all stripes hate American, hate Israel, hate religion, and hate sovereignty, as these realities stand in the way of their dreams of world domination.


    It is the greatest mistake to see each of the haters as stand-alone. They are the pseudopods of the same slimy amoeba.



    "...therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."
    John Donne
     
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    and she's back in tin-foil hat territory.

    Okay, for the record, the reason why Israel is an international pariah is because it practices a form of apartheid. It's a colonial state that treats the indigenous people of that region as second class citizens in their own land. Again, not much different from what South Africa used to do, except instead of doing this on the basis of race, they did it on the basis of religion. Much of the world went along with the creation of Israel because they felt bad about what happened during WWII, not because any magic man in the sky ordained anything. Now the world realizes it created a much worse problem than it solved, as Israel's existence radicalizes the Islamic world.

    I think it's also a bit disingenous to lump in "environmentalists" with "America haters". It's like a five year old saying "why do you hate me?" when you make him stand in a corner after he says a bad word. Environmentalists have a valid point of view. Human activity is damaging the biosphere. Species are becoming extinct and habitat is being lost. It isn't "hating America" to point out that as the most conspicious consumers of the world's resources, we are at the forefront of the problem.

    I do think there are some extremists in that movement, but there also some valid points. Oh, yeah, here in Chicago, it hit the 70s earlier in the week. In December. Nothing to see here.
     
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    You don't have a clue as to what it means to be an American.
     
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    That's right, today in order to be an American you need to be reliant on the government and demand those with more be punished for it.

    Poor America, thank the good lord my Granddaddy didn't live long enough to see this "fundamental transformation" from a country of producers to a country of leaches.
     
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    Two things I noticed as of late...

    1) People consider themselves poor if they dont have what they want. It used to be not having what they need...when a cell phone becomes a "necessity", something is wrong

    (I recall being poor when I didnt have a roof over my head. When I was finally able to afford an apartment in someones basement all I had was one bathy towel, one shirt and one pair of sneakers. No phone and no TV. I had enough to eat so I was never hungry. I had a roof over my head, clothes to wear, and food...and I did not consider myself poor)


    2) Disibility used to be for those that truly could not work. Now it is for those that have an ailment that makes it uncomfortable to work.
    (it used to be "find a way to earn a living...now it seems many look for reasons to not have to work)

    Yes...I know...I am generalizing.....but despite advances in medical technology that allows for speedier recoveries, the ranks of those on long term disibility has increased dramatically over the last 50 years.

    Your grandaddy would be ashamed if he saw what has happened.
     
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    If you are talking about the palestinians as the indigenous people, they are not. The migrated to Israel who was kind enough to give them land. Israel has been payed back with violence for years. Idiots need to stop feeling sorry for the satan worshiping palestinians. Israel needs to kick them out of Israel, the jews land.
     
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    I suppose the socialist left know what America is about? Far from it.
     
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    Israel was not founded by religious Jews idiot. And the species have disappeared and appeared as the climate has changed throughout history...no wonder Illinois is so screwed up:eusa_eh:
     
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    I know one individual who is trying to get disability because he claims he's too fat to work. Seriously, and the useless tit will likely get it.
     
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    On Thanksgiving evening, our local ABC affiliate had a camera crew outside one of the stores that was opening up at midnight. The reporter was asking those at the front of the line how long they had been there. A young girl...at thge front of the line said she had been there since the day before...the reporter asked her "dont you work"...and the girl responded ..."I have a bad back and currently on disibility." She asked her what kind of work she does..."I am a receptionist for a mid town lawfirm"

    So...she can sit on a concrete sidewalk for 24 hours....but she cant sit in a comfortable chair for 8 hours.

    Go figure.
     

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