Here's Our Chance To Get Rid Of The Unions

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    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21121391-643,00.html

    You will see from this link that Ford is on the ropes and going down for the count, just like GM, Chrysler, and Jeep, American Motors and all the others before them. Our car industry is shrinking itself into oblivion. They are moving production to China, Mexico, India and other low-cost countries. Why? Well, for one reason, a union worker screwing bolts into a car on the assembly line costs some $100 grand a year, counting all the goodies, like health insurance, retirement, vacation, sick leave etc etc. Well, the unions have decimated our car industry, along with the steel industry, appliances, electronics and on and on. The good news is that when this stuff is made in Mexico and China, it costs the consumers here half or less what it would cost for the same stuff made in America. But the really good news is that the disappearance of manufacturing here will finish off the greedy unions once and for all. We can thank them for wiping out our industry. Then, hopefully, we can get back to more sensible wages and employers can quit being welfare states providing health insurance and retirement. And, when our wages come down to be closer to Mexico, our illegal alien problem will disappear.
     
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    You're right one one thing. If it wouldn't be for the unions, there wouldn't be anybody slipping into our country, it would probably be the other way around though and you probably couldn't afford a computer to write this post on. As for the car companies losing money, that is hog wash. They report their estimated earnings/profit at, say 20 billion, and their earnings aren't but 18 billion, their reporting methods are a 2 billion loss. Pure poppy cock!!!!
     
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    Union membership is down to about 12% in the US. No wonder the US economy is doing better. We do not the leeches running the unions sucking money out of its members via dues and the buying public via higher prices


    Union membership on decline again
    Business First of Buffalo - 3:27 PM EST Thursday
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    The ranks of unionized persons in the U.S. took another step down in 2006, the 23rd consecutive year membership has fallen.

    The Department of Labor said Thursday 12 percent of workers were union members last year, down from 12.5 percent in 2005. In raw numbers, the decline was 326,000, lowering union membership across the country to 15.4 million.

    The labor department began tracking the figures in 1983 and since then, the membership rate has fallen from 20.1 percent.

    New York state remained second with 2 million personnel, or about one-quarter of the workforce, claiming union membership. California tops the nation with 2.3 million union members.

    The report said 36.2 percent of government workers are in a union compared to 7.4 percent in the private sector.

    Within the public sector, 42 percent of local government workers - including police, fire, and teachers -- are union members.

    The union membership rate for men was 13 percent and just under 11 percent for women.

    The government also said that in 2006 full-time wage and salary workers who were in a union had median weekly pay of $833 compared to $642 for those not in a union.


    http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2007/01/22/daily41.html
     
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    The higher wages are needed since the union heads have to cover the cost of mob payoffs, graft, bribes, and the fees paid to union thugs to keep order during union and national elections
     
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    Getting rid of unions is a terrible idea.

    A Union is a structure designed to organize and protect labor codified in law. Capital is organized and protected in the law through corporations. If capital is offered protection in the law through a legal construct, why not labor? Would it make sense to strip the protection of capital by ridding society of corporations? Of course not. That would be idiotic.
     
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    I have never understood why anyone would think it would be constitutional to get rid of them.

    its lunacy
     
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    No one is suggesting laws to get rid of them.... But then if you could understand what you read, you might understand that.

    Big National Unions are EXACTLY what they were created to oppose, BIG BUISINESS. They are corrupt and wasteful, they do NOT have the welfare of the member as the goal.

    Corporations that operate like we allow the big unions are routinely fined and their leadership imprisoned for felonies.

    Explain this one to me.... Why is it LEGAL to have a shop that is Union, BUT illegal to have a shop that is NOT Union?
     
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    It cuts down on political donations to the Democrat party
     

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