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Firefighters battled blazes in Ventura, Calif., early Tuesday. Tens of thousands of people in Southern California were evacuated as wildfires raged. CreditRyan Cullom/Ventura County Fire Department, via Associated Press

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICHDEC. 5, 2017


Two major fires roared through Southern California on Tuesday and forced tens of thousands of people from their homes, in the latest outburst of what has been one of the state’s worst fire seasons.

The first fire, in Ventura County, started Monday evening and spread rapidly overnight to envelop at least 45,000 acres, destroying at least 150 structures and prompting 27,000 people to evacuate.

The second began Tuesday morning in Los Angeles County and quickly grew to encompass more than 4,000 acres. Both fires were fed by dry conditions and fierce winds, the authorities said.

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread

78 square miles so far, no containment. Tell us again how this is just a normal year as far as extreme weather events go.
 
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Firefighters battled blazes in Ventura, Calif., early Tuesday. Tens of thousands of people in Southern California were evacuated as wildfires raged. CreditRyan Cullom/Ventura County Fire Department, via Associated Press

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICHDEC. 5, 2017


Two major fires roared through Southern California on Tuesday and forced tens of thousands of people from their homes, in the latest outburst of what has been one of the state’s worst fire seasons.

The first fire, in Ventura County, started Monday evening and spread rapidly overnight to envelop at least 45,000 acres, destroying at least 150 structures and prompting 27,000 people to evacuate.

The second began Tuesday morning in Los Angeles County and quickly grew to encompass more than 4,000 acres. Both fires were fed by dry conditions and fierce winds, the authorities said.

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread

78 square miles so far, no containment. Tell us again how this is just a normal year as far as extreme weather events go.


Is it raining fire now?
 
Fire is now up to 98 square miles. Unknown how many structures lost, one hospital, at least, a couple hundred homes for sure.
 
Just saw the unified command say the reason for the fire this year is every 5-10 years they go without any rain before the Santa Ana winds arrive every year and that happened this year. Sounds like it, unfortunately, is a normal occurrence. It is just how quickly they can get it under control when and where one is lit. This time, not so quickly.
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Sad to see property destroyed under any circumstances.
 
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Were this the only fire in California this year, that might carry water. However, we have had a long drought with only one spring of rain to ameliorate the drought. And there have been catastrophic fires already, with over 10,000 homes and businesses destroyed.
 
Adding to the problem, we had a lot of rain this year which makes all the stuff that burns like crazy, like dry grass, very tall and full. It is like uber-kindling. And after no rain for a few months it is mostly dry now and any ember that touches that stuff ignites it. The fire departments near here just left to head down and help out. It's a huge fire and the Santa Ana winds are like a bellows blowing on an already raging fire.
 
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Firefighters battled blazes in Ventura, Calif., early Tuesday. Tens of thousands of people in Southern California were evacuated as wildfires raged. CreditRyan Cullom/Ventura County Fire Department, via Associated Press

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICHDEC. 5, 2017


Two major fires roared through Southern California on Tuesday and forced tens of thousands of people from their homes, in the latest outburst of what has been one of the state’s worst fire seasons.

The first fire, in Ventura County, started Monday evening and spread rapidly overnight to envelop at least 45,000 acres, destroying at least 150 structures and prompting 27,000 people to evacuate.

The second began Tuesday morning in Los Angeles County and quickly grew to encompass more than 4,000 acres. Both fires were fed by dry conditions and fierce winds, the authorities said.

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread

78 square miles so far, no containment. Tell us again how this is just a normal year as far as extreme weather events go.

No fire before fossil fuels..........
 
Adding to the problem, we had a lot of rain this year which makes all the stuff that burns like crazy, like dry grass, very tall and full. It is like uber-kindling. And after no rain for a few months it is mostly dry now and any ember that touches that stuff ignites it. The fire departments near here just left to head down and help out. It's a huge fire and the Santa Ana winds are like a bellows blowing on an already raging fire.
Stay safe, if you are in the area.
 
Adding to the problem, we had a lot of rain this year which makes all the stuff that burns like crazy, like dry grass, very tall and full. It is like uber-kindling. And after no rain for a few months it is mostly dry now and any ember that touches that stuff ignites it. The fire departments near here just left to head down and help out. It's a huge fire and the Santa Ana winds are like a bellows blowing on an already raging fire.
Stay safe, if you are in the area.

Thank you I am farther north. Tough to watch on the news, AGAIN. No hurricanes here but with fires and earthquakes we make up for it. This Ventura fire seems to have been a couple hundred acres and within an hour or two it spread to 20,000. Santa Ana and his winds.
 
Glad you are north of it. I don’t envy you, those. Yeah, at least with our hurricanes we usually have plenty of notice, to either get out or prepare. Have a sis that lived in Colorado and those Santa Ana winds can be brutal.
Adding to the problem, we had a lot of rain this year which makes all the stuff that burns like crazy, like dry grass, very tall and full. It is like uber-kindling. And after no rain for a few months it is mostly dry now and any ember that touches that stuff ignites it. The fire departments near here just left to head down and help out. It's a huge fire and the Santa Ana winds are like a bellows blowing on an already raging fire.
Stay safe, if you are in the area.

Thank you I am farther north. Tough to watch on the news, AGAIN. No hurricanes here but with fires and earthquakes we make up for it. This Ventura fire seems to have been a couple hundred acres and within an hour or two it spread to 20,000. Santa Ana and his winds.
 
Winds like that are rare in Oregon, but we had that happen two summers ago, and the Strawberry Wilderness Area lost 175 square miles of trees. Over 20 homes lost in a very large county of only 7000 residents. Once the wind gets behind the fire, you can only get out of the way, and hope you can stop it at natural breaks. In the last few summers, there have been multiple communities in Washington and Oregon that have experienced retardant drops within the city limits in order to save the town. I worked for the Forest Service for a few years over 40 years ago. We never saw fires like that. This fire behavior, summer after summer, is something we have not experienced before.
 
Dang. This happens a lot out there. My other half wants us to buy there, but I don't know if I want to blow my savings with risks like that.

Stay safe.
 
They should use those multi-billion dollar wind turbines to blow them out cause we all know the money would not of been better spent on airplanes to fight fires.
 
Over a 1000 homes now known to have burned in these fires, so far. And it is not even daybreak yet, so the full damage is yet to be seen. Winds expected to continue for several days yet due to a 'parked' high pressure ridge. Exactly the kind of conditions we have seen do so much damage creating ideal conditions for floods and fires. Jennifer Francis predicted this effect in her presentation before the Meteorological Society in 2012.
 

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