Health Care Reform Group Gets Waiver from… Health Care Reform?

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    Oh, yeah. Obamacare sucks this bad...

    Health Care Reform Group Gets Waiver from? Health Care Reform? Hot Air

    I know a few other folks here are on top of the developing (see: growing) list of companies being granted exemptions from the crap sandwitch that is Obamacare. However, this one was too good to pass up.

    At some point, America will come to understand what a HUGE cock-up this "health care" legislation really was. And I don't just mean the large majority of folks who rejected the commie-care that got shoved down our gullets in the first place.

    Soon, even Obama voters will understand how badly we all got screwed. :eek:

    Good night and good luck... :razz:
     
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    seriously did you just quote a website blog called "hot air"? a blog that calls itself right of center?

    "the site has become one of the largest right-of-center blogs on the Internet"

    very trustworthy news source. because we know that everything we read on the internet is pure truth.
     
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    does it say what they are asking to be exempt from? what measures?
     
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    How about USA Today...you believe them?
    McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers - USATODAY.com
    Or CBS news, not really a right leaning organization
    30 Companies, Other Groups Escape New Health Care Rule for Now - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Are you that much of an Obama zombie that you can't believe the govt is doing this. Obamacare is a terrible iece of legislation and every day more evidence of that comes out. Take off the partisan blinders and embrace reality.
     
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    No one out there is unwilling to say the bill needs tested even if you agree with the ideals, right?

    Hell, it could be compromises that make it pointless. Thing is big. Who knows.
     
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    Hannity was yammering about this on his radio hatefest today, and you know how they all like to self-validate their bullshit by quoting each other's bullshit.
     
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    From their website, it looks like NEHI's ideas for reform revolve around:

    • CPOE
    • Better care coordination for those with chronic conditions
    • Comparative effectiveness research
    • Incentives for innovation in primary care delivery
    • Much more attention to prevention

    Yeah, I bet they just hate the ACA. :lol:
     
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    Per the article you posted:

    "Thirty companies and organizations, including McDonald's (MCD) and Jack in the Box (JACK), won't be required to raise the minimum annual benefit included in low-cost health plans, which are often used to cover part-time or low-wage employees."

    "Without waivers, companies would have had to provide a minimum of $750,000 in coverage next year, increasing to $1.25 million in 2012, $2 million in 2013 and unlimited in 2014."

    "The waiver program is intended to provide continuous coverage until 2014, when government-organized marketplaces will offer insurance subsidized by tax credits, says HHS spokeswoman Jessica Santillo."

    "The United Agricultural Benefit Trust, the California-based cooperative that offers coverage to farm workers, was allowed to exempt 17,347 people. San Diego-based Jack in the Box's waiver is for 1,130 workers, while McDonald's asked to excuse 115,000."

    "The biggest single waiver, for 351,000 people, was for the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund, a New York union providing coverage for city teachers. The waivers are effective for a year and were granted to insurance plans and companies that showed that employee premiums would rise or that workers would lose coverage without them, Santillo says."


    so they are technically already providing coverage to both full time and part time workers at a subsidized costs. they are simply not being required to raise the minimum coverage level over $750,000. And this is actually only in affect until 2014 when the exchanges go online, and they employees will have access to the subsidized health care plans.

    I dont see what the problem is here? these companies are already providing HC coverage to low income and low wage workers (a positive in my mind), at a reduced costs. and they simply requested a waiver to keep their costs low, until other parts of the health care bill come in to effect in a few years. They arent being exempted from the entire bill like the post leads people to believe. Im not sure what the argument is with this. Can you be more specific on what exactly you are disliking?
     
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    Hannity didn't tell them all THAT! LOL!
     

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