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Isn't there a case awaiting SC judgement today from some old guy in Chicago (I think it's Chicago) challenging the city's ban on handguns? I'm sure that judgement is due today..... This will either be a very good day for Americans who want to protect themselves or a very good day for evil bastards who want to break into our homes.
Isn't there a case awaiting SC judgement today from some old guy in Chicago (I think it's Chicago) challenging the city's ban on handguns? I'm sure that judgement is due today..... This will either be a very good day for Americans who want to protect themselves or a very good day for evil bastards who want to break into our homes.
Breaking into MY home would definitely result in the perpetration of violence ... just not the way the criminal has it planned.
Police asked me what I would have done if I'd caught him. I said 'beat the crap outta him and called for an ambulance'. Apparently, I would have been arrested for that. Because he was leaving.... Fucking Nanny State.Isn't there a case awaiting SC judgement today from some old guy in Chicago (I think it's Chicago) challenging the city's ban on handguns? I'm sure that judgement is due today..... This will either be a very good day for Americans who want to protect themselves or a very good day for evil bastards who want to break into our homes.
Breaking into MY home would definitely result in the perpetration of violence ... just not the way the criminal has it planned.
I got broken into in the UK.... no guns in houses in the UK. He went out the back as I came in the front door. I grabbed my baseball bat and chased the bastard! He dropped my stuff and hightailed it.
Breaking into MY home would definitely result in the perpetration of violence ... just not the way the criminal has it planned.
I got broken into in the UK.... no guns in houses in the UK. He went out the back as I came in the front door. I grabbed my baseball bat and chased the bastard! He dropped my stuff and hightailed it.
I'd like to have seen THAT.
I think the sensible compromise would be to require education and demonstrated proficiency. Make all weapons subject to licensing which requires firearm safety and handling techniques. It is a right that should not be removed as it is a cornerstone of our society. But our short history also shows the impact it's had on our society in the time since, and there are many negatives. What is wrong with learning from our past behaviors and addressing them?
I don't think the illegal use of firearms is caused by a lack of either firearm education or a lack of proficiency...so what do you expect that to accomplish?
Isn't there a case awaiting SC judgement today from some old guy in Chicago (I think it's Chicago) challenging the city's ban on handguns? I'm sure that judgement is due today..... This will either be a very good day for Americans who want to protect themselves or a very good day for evil bastards who want to break into our homes.
Breaking into MY home would definitely result in the perpetration of violence ... just not the way the criminal has it planned.
I got broken into in the UK.... no guns in houses in the UK. He went out the back as I came in the front door. I grabbed my baseball bat and chased the bastard! He dropped my stuff and hightailed it.
Breaking into MY home would definitely result in the perpetration of violence ... just not the way the criminal has it planned.
I got broken into in the UK.... no guns in houses in the UK. He went out the back as I came in the front door. I grabbed my baseball bat and chased the bastard! He dropped my stuff and hightailed it.
You'd likely be arrested here too, as well you should. Preventing a crime and/or defending yourself are fine; meting out your own justice is not.
I think the sensible compromise would be to require education and demonstrated proficiency. Make all weapons subject to licensing which requires firearm safety and handling techniques. It is a right that should not be removed as it is a cornerstone of our society. But our short history also shows the impact it's had on our society in the time since, and there are many negatives. What is wrong with learning from our past behaviors and addressing them?
I don't think the illegal use of firearms is caused by a lack of either firearm education or a lack of proficiency...so what do you expect that to accomplish?
I wasn't speaking solely to the problem of illegal firearms, but the larger problem of gun-related deaths in America. What I expect to accomplish, though, is to have tighter control over how guns are legally obtained and used. I have no desire to keep law-abiding citizens from obtaining guns (though there is a whole other discussion needed to determine which guns are legally available).
I don't think the illegal use of firearms is caused by a lack of either firearm education or a lack of proficiency...so what do you expect that to accomplish?
I wasn't speaking solely to the problem of illegal firearms, but the larger problem of gun-related deaths in America. What I expect to accomplish, though, is to have tighter control over how guns are legally obtained and used. I have no desire to keep law-abiding citizens from obtaining guns (though there is a whole other discussion needed to determine which guns are legally available).
Accidental gun deaths have declined dramatically over the last 50 years to where it really isnt much of a problem. Deaths from falling off ladders are probably higher numbers. Deaths from automobiles are probably higher by a factor of 10.
Making people jump through hoops to exercise a right is never a good idea. It didnt fly with voting. I dont see why it should fly with firearms.
I wasn't speaking solely to the problem of illegal firearms, but the larger problem of gun-related deaths in America. What I expect to accomplish, though, is to have tighter control over how guns are legally obtained and used. I have no desire to keep law-abiding citizens from obtaining guns (though there is a whole other discussion needed to determine which guns are legally available).
Accidental gun deaths have declined dramatically over the last 50 years to where it really isnt much of a problem. Deaths from falling off ladders are probably higher numbers. Deaths from automobiles are probably higher by a factor of 10.
Making people jump through hoops to exercise a right is never a good idea. It didnt fly with voting. I dont see why it should fly with firearms.
I don't see that I'm asking for a lot of jumping through hoops. Why is it a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to own a gun as well as demonstrate proficiency for its use? Especially when the converse is having more guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, both for lack of checks or testing. I'm talking about strengthening ourselves, not weakening.
I wasn't speaking solely to the problem of illegal firearms, but the larger problem of gun-related deaths in America. What I expect to accomplish, though, is to have tighter control over how guns are legally obtained and used. I have no desire to keep law-abiding citizens from obtaining guns (though there is a whole other discussion needed to determine which guns are legally available).
Accidental gun deaths have declined dramatically over the last 50 years to where it really isnt much of a problem. Deaths from falling off ladders are probably higher numbers. Deaths from automobiles are probably higher by a factor of 10.
Making people jump through hoops to exercise a right is never a good idea. It didnt fly with voting. I dont see why it should fly with firearms.
I don't see that I'm asking for a lot of jumping through hoops. Why is it a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to own a gun as well as demonstrate proficiency for its use? Especially when the converse is having more guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, both for lack of checks or testing. I'm talking about strengthening ourselves, not weakening.
Accidental gun deaths have declined dramatically over the last 50 years to where it really isnt much of a problem. Deaths from falling off ladders are probably higher numbers. Deaths from automobiles are probably higher by a factor of 10.
Making people jump through hoops to exercise a right is never a good idea. It didnt fly with voting. I dont see why it should fly with firearms.
I don't see that I'm asking for a lot of jumping through hoops. Why is it a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to own a gun as well as demonstrate proficiency for its use? Especially when the converse is having more guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, both for lack of checks or testing. I'm talking about strengthening ourselves, not weakening.
Would it be a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to vote as well as demonstrate your understanding of the issues?
I don't see that I'm asking for a lot of jumping through hoops. Why is it a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to own a gun as well as demonstrate proficiency for its use? Especially when the converse is having more guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, both for lack of checks or testing. I'm talking about strengthening ourselves, not weakening.
Would it be a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to vote as well as demonstrate your understanding of the issues?
Why should ANYONE have to demonstrate ANYTHING? We have a president that did not demonstrate his citizen status. Why should the rest of us have to do any more?
Would it be a bad thing to have to demonstrate your legal right to vote as well as demonstrate your understanding of the issues?
Why should ANYONE have to demonstrate ANYTHING? We have a president that did not demonstrate his citizen status. Why should the rest of us have to do any more?
Actually, he has, and this issue is so past its sell by date it barely merits a response. Get over it.
The reason why people should have to demonstrate anything is as a guarantee of rights. Are you okay with having no checks? Allowing anyone to vote as often as they like? Yeah, let's make electing a POTUS just like crowning a new American Idol champ! Let's allow felons to buy guns. Let's allow perjury.
No thanks. I'm not for a lot of rules, but there are some that seem intuitive.
52nd street -
And yet we can look at any of a hundred acts of genocide that have taken place in extremely highly armed societies - Cambodia, Rwanda, even the Cultural Revolution all took place in societies where people had a lot of weapons in their homes. Massacres were conducted by Rios Montte, Cristiani, Pinochet...and yet all countries were well armed.
In no case that I am aware of has gun ownership prevented the use of force by a government against its own people.
By all means prove me wrong - name one.
Irregardless of the global atrocities you mention, you should not, and can not ban specific
weapons from the American citizenry.Its unconstitutional.
"A well armed millitia rights must not be infringed upon" this is in the Constitution of the United States sir, stop trying to change Americas Constitution.!!
52nd street -
And yet we can look at any of a hundred acts of genocide that have taken place in extremely highly armed societies - Cambodia, Rwanda, even the Cultural Revolution all took place in societies where people had a lot of weapons in their homes. Massacres were conducted by Rios Montte, Cristiani, Pinochet...and yet all countries were well armed.
In no case that I am aware of has gun ownership prevented the use of force by a government against its own people.
By all means prove me wrong - name one.
Irregardless of the global atrocities you mention, you should not, and can not ban specific
weapons from the American citizenry.Its unconstitutional.
"A well armed millitia rights must not be infringed upon" this is in the Constitution of the United States sir, stop trying to change Americas Constitution.!!
"Can not ban specific weapons"?
Hmmm anti tank weapons? Anti personelle mines? 50 cal machine guns? Anti-aircraft missiles? Morters? Tanks? Military aircraft and their armaments? Cruise missiles?
We should have NO bans what-so-ever on ANY weaponry? OR should some weapons be banned? I don't know that I am comfortable with people owning FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons, though I DO support concealed carry of hand guns. I just don't see the NEED for a machine gun, it's HARDLY a home defense weapon unless you are being attacked by the MOB, the CRIPS, or the BLOODS.
You are in favor of a test to prove you understand the issues before you are allowed to vote?
