Grover Norquist Takes On the War Party

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    Grover Norquist Takes On the War Party by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com


    Well, Norquist, you must realize that this is a losing battle. Because:


    I think it is beyond time that we address the bloated, wasteful, destructive and deadly military/security complex this nation has liquored up on foreign policy imperrialism. Anyone who is serious about the financial health of the US, like Ryan claims to be, should not be side stepping the "Offense Department".
     
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    No doubt that much can be cut from the defense budget. But aside from cutting, we need honest oversight of where and how it is spent. We could certainly do more with less. It's the waste and corruption that inflates the overall cost.

    We also need to address the issue of foreign aid and who receives it and what benefit, if any makes it worth it.

    From that perspective(financial), the government should be run like a business.
     
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    It's the same old. The minute anyone brings up defense spending cuts, teh chicken hawks start squabbling about national defense. That's where I see the problem. We've spent so many decades meddling in foreign affairs, we now veiw the matter of foreign policy as national defense. Viewing the entire world as yours in that sense, does not lead people to see viability to cuts of any kind.

    We need strong national defense, we do not need any offense. We need leaders who are strong, willing and able to stand up and separate the two and how we can better control our spending, the use of our service people and our technology.
     
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    But I do find it funny that Ryan is really nothing more than a neocon. Balance the budget in 30 years? :lmao:

    Oh, and no touching the military! Also, we need war with Iran.
     
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    Sorry, TakeAStepBack, but you told the entire board you wish for America to collapse as soon as possible.

    You really don't have any cred.
     
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    Link?
     
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    You are denying it, then?
     
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    Am i denying what?
    That the federal governments debt policies will lead to its financial demise. It's a mathematical fact without big changes in policy. Paul Ryan isn't that guy. He's a neocon war promoter. His budget is a joke.

    The federal government does not = America. Although I realize statists believe that it is.
     
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    That you are anxious for the collapse of America, the sooner the better.

    Are you denying you have argued that you want America to fail?
     
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    Yes. Because that is not, nor never was anything I argued. Now, you want to stay on topic guy, instead of worrying about your perception of my credibility?
     

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