Government By Coup d'Etat and Intimidation

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    We know that the beginning stages of a police state exist in the United States when:
    a leader is brought into power through illegal means

    a national catastrophe is used as the pretext to begin a war and institute extraordinary restrictions on constitutional liberties

    citizen dissent is held to be treasonous

    the constitutional separation of powers is abrogated by a power-mad executive branch which controls or intimidates the other two branches of government

    The US Patriot Act was enacted by a Congress that had not actually read it. The only thing representatives and senators got was a two or three page compendium from the White House press office. Nobody was actually given the time to read the provisions of the act. The White House intimidated members of Congress into passing the bill by telling them that if they refused to sign it, they'd be labeled as "unpatriotic"--something almost all members of Congress were frightened of at the time.

    Lieberman, Daschle and Gephardt later wrote a memorandum stating that Congress had effectively given the Bush Administration "near dictatorial powers."

    Let the sheeple awake from their daze!

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    The US Patriot Act was enacted by a Congress that had not actually read it.
    Did a pack of rats in the NYC sewer system write and read the Patriot Act?
     
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    Oh but you and I are just conspiracy nuts.

    meanwhile, they conspire against us.

    most people don't know enough to care.

    the others feel the party doing it somehow has their best interests in mind. maybe they are anti abortion or anti gay. maybe they hve a lot of money so they go along for financial reasons. or they are racist.

    Regardless, 9 11 was key.

    disaster capitalism.

    I won't rambe on. I'm just glad you started this thread. I can't wait to see whoargues. At least you opened up the dialog.

    PS. I think they did this during the Guilded Age and The Great Depression.

    Maybe we are smarter now. Maybe they won't be able to alter history this time and cover it up.

    I just hope the DEMS don't cover it all up for the sake of our reputation. If bush stole the election, let the history books say so. If the events leading up to 9 11 are suspect, let it be written. If we find out chaney sent anthrax to his critics, let it be written.

    That way history won't repeat itself.

    They were clever enough to get away with it long enough to achieve their goals, but if we cover it up, they'll just do it again 20 yrs from now.

    This is why the gop should never rule again. They only represent 30 percent of the population at best so they should only have 30 percent of both houses and occasionally MAYBE run the white house.
     
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    can i see a source that says congress never read the patriot act? that would be quite disturbing
     
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    And yet it has been renewed every time it came up for a vote, go figure. None of your other drivel is true either. What fear mongering will you resort to when Bush does NOT seize power? If Obama wins what then?
     
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    Congress doesn't read any/all/most of the bills they sign. They go by what they are told. That's why it is easy for them to slip things into bills.

    Oh it's distubing alright.

    What else is distubing is that most politicians don't know jack squat about the constitution.

    Obama does.
     
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    You should hang out with Wow you two are the same coin different sides. Any lie, any distortion any made up shit is fine. The difference being that those of us on the right admit Wow is generally full of shit, while your leftoid buddies stay silent on your garbage as usual.
     
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    Speaking of Coups, the only one we have ever been near to WAS 2000 when Gore tried to use the courts to steal the election. I can tell you had that succeeded we probably would have had some small scale or bigger revolts in this country.

    And then when he LOSES in the Courts that he took it too, he whines he was cheated. And you all on the left agree. Typical horse shit from liberals.
     
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    That's what interns are for. They do the required reading and report back to the elected official. They don't do the majority of the righting of the bills as well. There's always someone else to do it for them.

    I agree it's disturbing.
     
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    I still find it funny that people say it was the first time an election was so close. To many forget the 1960 election. Nixon was a gentlemen and didn't drag us threw the mud just because he can. But when you think about who Gore's support system (Clinton) vs Nixon's (Ike) you can see why it went the way it did.
     

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