"Goal is end of Israel," but "you can't say that to the world"

[P F Tinmore]

Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants.

Israel is a foreign occupation of Palestine.

The US is a foreign occupation of Indian land....... so?

The difference being that it is now illegal to take over another country.

 

[JStone]

Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants.

Israel is a foreign occupation of Palestine.

The US is a foreign occupation of Indian land....... so?

The difference being that it is now illegal to take over another country.

When did Israel become another country?

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...

Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store.

Tel Dan Stele Verifying King David Dynasty 3000 years ago
The Tel Dan Stela and the Kings of Aram and Israel

Jewish Bar Kokhba Coins Minted 2000 Years Ago...
Bar Kochba Revolt coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Judaea Capta Coins Minted By Romans against Jews 2000 years ago
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 years old.
Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel

In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.
The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press

PBS Nova...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

The US is a foreign occupation of Indian land....... so?

The difference being that it is now illegal to take over another country.

When did Israel become another country?

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...


Tel Dan Stele Verifying King David Dynasty 3000 years ago
The Tel Dan Stela and the Kings of Aram and Israel

Jewish Bar Kokhba Coins Minted 2000 Years Ago...
Bar Kochba Revolt coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Judaea Capta Coins Minted By Romans against Jews 2000 years ago
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 years old.
Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel

In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.
The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press

PBS Nova...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

Israel is of foreigners, by foreigners, for foreigners.

 

[JStone]

The difference being that it is now illegal to take over another country.

When did Israel become another country?

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...


Tel Dan Stele Verifying King David Dynasty 3000 years ago
The Tel Dan Stela and the Kings of Aram and Israel

Jewish Bar Kokhba Coins Minted 2000 Years Ago...
Bar Kochba Revolt coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Judaea Capta Coins Minted By Romans against Jews 2000 years ago
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 years old.
Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel


PBS Nova...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

Israel is of foreigners, by foreigners, for foreigners.

Nope.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World TodayGlobal Politician - Israel’s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

Palestinian Arabs, on the other hand, never had a separate identity. They always thought of themselves as Arabs rather than as Palestinians. It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence. According to Bernard Lewis, “From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity.” Lewis notes, "There had been a steady movement of Jews to the Holy Land throughout the centuries." In 135 CE Jews took part in the Bar Kochba revolt against imperial Rome and even re-established their capital in Jerusalem. Defeated by the most brutal of the Roman legions under the command of the emperor Hadrian, Jews were forbidden to reside in Jerusalem for nearly five hundred years. Once a year on the ninth of the Hebrew month of Av, they were allowed to weep at the remains of their destroyed Temple at a spot that came to be called "the Wailing Wall." In the meantime, the Roman authorities renamed Judea as Palestina in order to obliterate the memory of Jewish nationhood.

A resolution adopted by the first Congress of the Muslim Christian Association which met in Jerusalem in February 1919 underlines the Arab understanding of the situation conclusively. It said, "We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state using Arab citizens of Israel as its proxy in Israel. It must not be forgotten that the Israeli Arabs are part and parcel of the same Global Jihad that has been murdering our gallant soldiers on the war fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is true that Jews have the right to live in the holy land. They already lived there and they were opposed to the foreigners creating a Jewish state in Palestine.

 

[JStone]

It is true that Jews have the right to live in the holy land. They already lived there and they were opposed to the foreigners creating a Jewish state in Palestine.

Can you name another nation other than the Jewish nation established in Israel in the last 3000 years? No, I didn't think so.

 

[destroythedome]

^Oh we know what those you support want PF.

Your side has never been quiet about it.

It is simple. End the occupation.

The Palestinians have the legal and moral high ground on this issue.

You can never have the moral high ground until palestinians rid themselves of all the terrorist animals they have liveing amongst them. It actualy makes me feel sorry for those few Palestinians who do want peace and a better life. But its thier own faults for not standing up to the terrorists that infect thier society.

 

[JStone]

^Oh we know what those you support want PF.

Your side has never been quiet about it.

It is simple. End the occupation.

The Palestinians have the legal and moral high ground on this issue.

You can never have the moral high ground until palestinians rid themselves of all the terrorist animals they have liveing amongst them. It actualy makes me feel sorry for those few Palestinians who do want peace and a better life. But its thier own faults for not standing up to the terrorists that infect thier society.

Fakestiniains.

Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Italian Muslim Assembly

I live in Rome and I am a clergyman (Imam) of the Italian Islamic Community. I consider myself a good friend of Israel and am trying my best to help Moslems free themselves from anti-Zionism and to develop a positive attitude toward Jews in general and towards Israelis in particular.

I believe that "Palestinian identity" is something completely artificial: it was forged as a propagandistic tool against Israel. The strange fact is that, at least here in Europe, I have never heard an Arab from the Land of Israel ("Palestine") say: "I am Palestinian."

Please remember that the so-called hero of "Palestinian independence," the pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of British Mandate Palestine, Haj Amin al-Husseini, never claimed that "Palestinians" are to be an independent people: all of his official declarations state that "Palestine must be recognized as a integral part of Syria."

ISRAEL SHOULD DECLARE OSLO NULL AND VOID (Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi August, 1998

 

[P F Tinmore]

^Oh we know what those you support want PF.

Your side has never been quiet about it.

It is simple. End the occupation.

The Palestinians have the legal and moral high ground on this issue.

You can never have the moral high ground until palestinians rid themselves of all the terrorist animals they have liveing amongst them. It actualy makes me feel sorry for those few Palestinians who do want peace and a better life. But its thier own faults for not standing up to the terrorists that infect thier society.

Terrorist is a meaningless, political, third grade, name calling thing.

 

[JStone]

It is simple. End the occupation.

The Palestinians have the legal and moral high ground on this issue.

You can never have the moral high ground until palestinians rid themselves of all the terrorist animals they have liveing amongst them. It actualy makes me feel sorry for those few Palestinians who do want peace and a better life. But its thier own faults for not standing up to the terrorists that infect thier society.

Terrorist is a meaningless, political, third grade, name calling thing.

Arab Muslim terrorists should not be living in Israel.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World TodayGlobal Politician - Israel’s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

Palestinian Arabs, on the other hand, never had a separate identity. They always thought of themselves as Arabs rather than as Palestinians. It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence. According to Bernard Lewis, “From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity.” Lewis notes, "There had been a steady movement of Jews to the Holy Land throughout the centuries." In 135 CE Jews took part in the Bar Kochba revolt against imperial Rome and even re-established their capital in Jerusalem. Defeated by the most brutal of the Roman legions under the command of the emperor Hadrian, Jews were forbidden to reside in Jerusalem for nearly five hundred years. Once a year on the ninth of the Hebrew month of Av, they were allowed to weep at the remains of their destroyed Temple at a spot that came to be called "the Wailing Wall." In the meantime, the Roman authorities renamed Judea as Palestina in order to obliterate the memory of Jewish nationhood.

A resolution adopted by the first Congress of the Muslim Christian Association which met in Jerusalem in February 1919 underlines the Arab understanding of the situation conclusively. It said, "We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state using Arab citizens of Israel as its proxy in Israel. It must not be forgotten that the Israeli Arabs are part and parcel of the same Global Jihad that has been murdering our gallant soldiers on the war fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[destroythedome]

It is simple. End the occupation.

The Palestinians have the legal and moral high ground on this issue.

You can never have the moral high ground until palestinians rid themselves of all the terrorist animals they have liveing amongst them. It actualy makes me feel sorry for those few Palestinians who do want peace and a better life. But its thier own faults for not standing up to the terrorists that infect thier society.

Terrorist is a meaningless, political, third grade, name calling thing.

No how many times do we have to tell you terrorist is a real word that describes people like you. I think you need to rest that tinny brain of yours befor it fails you completely. (oops too late!! sorry tinmore.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You can never have the moral high ground until palestinians rid themselves of all the terrorist animals they have liveing amongst them. It actualy makes me feel sorry for those few Palestinians who do want peace and a better life. But its thier own faults for not standing up to the terrorists that infect thier society.

Terrorist is a meaningless, political, third grade, name calling thing.

No how many times do we have to tell you terrorist is a real word that describes people like you. I think you need to rest that tinny brain of yours befor it fails you completely. (oops too late!! sorry tinmore.

You're allowed to be wrong. I won't take it personal.

 

[JStone]

Terrorist is a meaningless, political, third grade, name calling thing.

No how many times do we have to tell you terrorist is a real word that describes people like you. I think you need to rest that tinny brain of yours befor it fails you completely. (oops too late!! sorry tinmore.

You're allowed to be wrong. I won't take it personal.

You can't even achieve one reputational point after 2 years and your page sez you should be ignored at all costs.

 

[destroythedome]

Terrorist is a meaningless, political, third grade, name calling thing.

No how many times do we have to tell you terrorist is a real word that describes people like you. I think you need to rest that tinny brain of yours befor it fails you completely. (oops too late!! sorry tinmore.

You're allowed to be wrong. I won't take it personal.

Yep tinmore you are the eggspert on being wrong.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No how many times do we have to tell you terrorist is a real word that describes people like you. I think you need to rest that tinny brain of yours befor it fails you completely. (oops too late!! sorry tinmore.

You're allowed to be wrong. I won't take it personal.

Yep tinmore you are the eggspert on being wrong.

You can't refute anything I say. You can only call names.

 

[JStone]

You're allowed to be wrong. I won't take it personal.

Yep tinmore you are the eggspert on being wrong.

You can't refute anything I say. You can only call names.

You can't get even one reputational point after 2 years of mindless posting.

You're a loser offline as well as online. Congratulations!

 

[destroythedome]

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You can't refute anything I say. You can only call names.

We have refuted every dumbass thing that has come out of your mouth. Its not our faults you are too stupid to get it. goodnight tinny brain. Remember the God of the Jews loves all his children even you.

 

[JStone]

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You can't refute anything I say. You can only call names.

We have refuted every dumbass thing that has come out of your mouth. Its not our faults you are too stupid to get it. goodnight tinny brain. Remember the God of the Jews loves all his children even you.

You're a fast learner

 

[P F Tinmore]

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You can't refute anything I say. You can only call names.

We have refuted every dumbass thing that has come out of your mouth. Its not our faults you are too stupid to get it. goodnight tinny brain. Remember the God of the Jews loves all his children even you.

You say that but you cannot name one.

 

[JStone]

You can't refute anything I say. You can only call names.

We have refuted every dumbass thing that has come out of your mouth. Its not our faults you are too stupid to get it. goodnight tinny brain. Remember the God of the Jews loves all his children even you.

You say that but you cannot name one.

You cannot name one reputational point after 2 years, doofus.