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Its sad that a few hundred gun company CEO's have more say over the 30,000 gun victims a yearT3h NRA is incapable of showing embarrassment. They are too well compensated to care by the gun manufacturers themselves to say nothing of the clingers that send in their paltry donationsGo ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
Go ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
I am a mugger/thief. I see two guys on the street, one is carrying a gun the other is not. Which one do I attack?Its sad that a few hundred gun company CEO's have more say over the 30,000 gun victims a yearT3h NRA is incapable of showing embarrassment. They are too well compensated to care by the gun manufacturers themselves to say nothing of the clingers that send in their paltry donationsGo ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
Did you just pull that number out of your ass?
You did, didn't you?
Evidence to that? I am not a gun owner...but I do enjoy the 2nd amendment...I take comfort in knowing its there.So why is gun ownership dropping like a rock?Porn and Marijuana are not needed to defend ourselves from criminals idiot. England the land that has disarmed its people,allows muslims to over run their country and locks up English people who DARE speak out about it. The only damn thing taking guns away did in England was make sure the English people had little chance to fight back when the flood gates opened up. You will never take guns away here...Its the one thing even liberals agree with conservatives on....2nd amendment is here to stay and EVERY poll done AFTER people are allowed concealed or open carry shows crime goes down not up.The criminal finds its not worth the effort of stealing,raping or robbing you if they might get shot for their trouble.You mean the nanny states in the US where porn or marijuana are illegal?He's from England. The ultimate nanny state. I am just choosing to ignore his rant about this...You need to look at studies. Conceal carry doesn't mean more deaths, unless you are worried about the occasional criminal being on the wrong end.
Criminals already practice conceal carry. You don't think they'd be more shy if they thought more citizens were armed?
Pick on the criminals all you want, but don't be so stupid as to think that a permit will turn a decent citizen into a criminal. Doesn't work that way. It's criminals you need to worry about and laws don't affect them one way or the other.
I'm sure some liberals are hoping for murders just so they can blame it on gun laws instead of deranged killers. Chicago has a high murder rate and stricter gun laws than most of the country. Would you like the entire country to be more like Chicago?
^^^^^^^^^^Dumbass on displayGo ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
Yes, the numbers were pulled from his ass.Its sad that a few hundred gun company CEO's have more say over the 30,000 gun victims a yearT3h NRA is incapable of showing embarrassment. They are too well compensated to care by the gun manufacturers themselves to say nothing of the clingers that send in their paltry donationsGo ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
Did you just pull that number out of your ass?
You did, didn't you?
Of course, in Charlotte there are still shootings in the hood most every night.i live in nc...we have open and concealed carry.....it is rather peaceful here
Left wing school board also VOTED DOWN a proposal to protect their schools.How did they embarrass anyone after Sandy Hook? A left wing self absorbed asshole went on a shooting spree and because of more left wing asshole laws nobody was armed and could stop him. And this is the NRA's problem?Personally, I think with the exorbitant power and money the NRA has, the only way to defeat it is to let it embarrass itself like it did after Sandy Hook
He wasn't old enough for a carry permit.If he had been pulled over for speeding, and the officers found his arsenal, he would have still been sent on his merry way if he had a carry permitA concealed carry permit would have let Adam Lanza get away without charge had he been intercepted by police before the shootingsPersonally, I think with the exorbitant power and money the NRA has, the only way to defeat it is to let it embarrass itself like it did after Sandy HookT3h NRA is incapable of showing embarrassment. They are too well compensated to care by the gun manufacturers themselves to say nothing of the clingers that send in their paltry donations
Was there a concealed weapons permit involved in the Sandy Hook murders?
Was he intercepted by police? And why would he have been? Was there a warrant out for him or any reason why the police would stop him?
MOTHER JONES?10 Pro-Gun Myths Shot Down Mother JonesWhy do nations with concealed carry (hint, only the USA has gone that mad) have on average more gun crime than those who don't
Do you have a link showing the states with more concealed carry permits have more gun violence?
I have used a gun twice to stop a crime, and both times could have shot.You make no fucking sense.Only 200 shootings in the usa MIGHT HAVE BEEN justified. The number that actually are justified is probably enough to count on one handHow a white man can chase a black teenager, tackle him to the floor, and shoot him in the head while he's got his hands up, and be acquitted for self defence
So you disagree with the jury's decision. Funny how that somehow invalidates all self defense uses.
But then, you allowed that 200+ incidents were, in fact, self defense and resulted in the deaths of criminals.
Try and keep your story straight.
Only 200 gun murders were justified. You have not shown those to be the only gun usages to be termed stopping a crime. In fact, that statistic, combined with the real numbers of crimes prevented with private guns, shows gun owners to be exercising restraint when stopping crimes, since it happens hundreds of thousands of times with only 200 deaths.
200 self defence incidents is FAR less than 30,000 other deaths
I make perfect sense. 200 self defense killings is far less than the 100k (at least) incidents in which a privately owned gun stopped a crime. That means very few gun owners are shooting to kill when they stop a crime.
Russia has never had any intent to invade us, 2nd Amendment or no 2nd Amendment.To cut to the heart of the matter, if Americans had to give up their guns, how long do you think it would take Russia to invade us.? All your other arguments are just so much stupid,ignorant bullshit. The reason America is on top of the totem pole is because of the 2d Amendment and don't you forget it, Chauncey.No but you fucking repeat all the NRA wingnut talking pointsSo, you have seen Me quote the NRA to make a point? If so, point that out to Me as I must have been sleep typing.Well then by those standard the NRA has zero fucking credibilityNot in the least. I at least made the effort to learn the truth about your source. Were you even aware of who founded of Mother Jones?
The magazine was named after Mary Harris Jones, known as Mother Jones, an Irish-American trade union activist, opponent of child labor.[4]
A cause against child labor is very laudable. However, a trade union activist is hardly what I would call "neutral sourcing"
Poor little fella. Can someone give him a cookie?Go ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
Good, stay safe over there.USA has guns and is dangerousDo you even understand the principle of causation?The USA has concealed carry permits. Has a murder rate of 4.8 per 100,000Since the topic of the OP is concealed weapons permits cause more gun deaths, can you provide a link that shows that? Or is the entire thread based on your lies?
UK, Japan, China, France, etc. all don't have concealed carry, and have far less murders
So, once again. Provide the data to back up that claim.
UK has no guns and is not dangerous.
Guns are the only real difference we have with eachother.
Culture does play a role but you could move there, or Cuba.Please tell me why Japan, with a CULTURE of ritual suicide, has far less gun suicide than the USA?
Oh, that is really, really stupid.So why is gun ownership dropping like a rock?Porn and Marijuana are not needed to defend ourselves from criminals idiot. England the land that has disarmed its people,allows muslims to over run their country and locks up English people who DARE speak out about it. The only damn thing taking guns away did in England was make sure the English people had little chance to fight back when the flood gates opened up. You will never take guns away here...Its the one thing even liberals agree with conservatives on....2nd amendment is here to stay and EVERY poll done AFTER people are allowed concealed or open carry shows crime goes down not up.The criminal finds its not worth the effort of stealing,raping or robbing you if they might get shot for their trouble.You mean the nanny states in the US where porn or marijuana are illegal?He's from England. The ultimate nanny state. I am just choosing to ignore his rant about this...You need to look at studies. Conceal carry doesn't mean more deaths, unless you are worried about the occasional criminal being on the wrong end.
Criminals already practice conceal carry. You don't think they'd be more shy if they thought more citizens were armed?
Pick on the criminals all you want, but don't be so stupid as to think that a permit will turn a decent citizen into a criminal. Doesn't work that way. It's criminals you need to worry about and laws don't affect them one way or the other.
I'm sure some liberals are hoping for murders just so they can blame it on gun laws instead of deranged killers. Chicago has a high murder rate and stricter gun laws than most of the country. Would you like the entire country to be more like Chicago?
Neither Japan or Cuba would take on a burden to society like this kid.Culture does play a role but you could move there, or Cuba.Please tell me why Japan, with a CULTURE of ritual suicide, has far less gun suicide than the USA?
I am a mugger/thief. I see two guys on the street, one is carrying a gun the other is not. Which one do I attack?Its sad that a few hundred gun company CEO's have more say over the 30,000 gun victims a yearT3h NRA is incapable of showing embarrassment. They are too well compensated to care by the gun manufacturers themselves to say nothing of the clingers that send in their paltry donationsGo ahead NRA. Force nationwide concealed carry. I'll cheer for you. You know why?
Because the sane people will get the last laugh when people see the staggering death tolls, the rise in gun murders, and the NRA is forced to hide its head in embarrasment.
Maybe then, we can see how bad the NRA is for America, and then progress will be made.
Did you just pull that number out of your ass?
You did, didn't you?
how do you know which is which
