Geez, Maybe I'm Not the Only Only One

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  1. Annie

    Annie Diamond Member

    Nov 22, 2003
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    I hope not. Did you know Richard Reid had been convicted and sentenced? Maybe I did, but I'll be danged if I remember it. I mix him and Moussoui up, yeah, I DO know the differences. Reid is ugly.

    Exploding Shoes
    By: Cpl. Blondie on 20040615
    Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb
    built into his shoe and tried to light it?

    Did you know his trial is over?
    Did you know he was sentenced?
    Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on
    Didn't think so.

    Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
    Ruling by Judge William Young US District Court.
    Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant
    If he had anything to say.
    His response: After admitting his guilt to the court
    for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance
    to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,"
    defiantly stated "I think I ought not apologize for my actions," and

    told the court "I am at war with your country."
    Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted
    below, a stinging condemnation of Reid in particular
    and terrorists in general.

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    January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge
    Young: Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the
    sentence the Court imposes upon you. On counts 1, 5
    and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in
    the custody of the United States Attorney General.
    On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to
    20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on
    each count to run consecutive with the other.
    That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you
    to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80
    years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each
    of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the
    aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's
    recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in

    the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American
    Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the $800
    special assessment.

    The Court imposes upon you five years supervised
    release simply because the law requires it. But the
    life sentences are real life sentences so I need go
    no further. This is the sentence that is provided
    for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence.
    It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this to
    you. We are not afraid of you or any of your
    terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are
    Americans We have been through the fire before.
    There is all too much war talk here. And I say that
    to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this
    court, where we deal with individuals as
    individuals, and care for individuals as
    individuals. As human beings, we reach out for

    You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist.
    You are not a soldier in any war. You are a
    terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives
    you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government
    who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be your
    view, you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate
    with terrorists. We do not treat with terrorists. We
    do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them
    down one by one and bring them to justice.
    So war talk is way out of line in this court. You
    are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're
    no warrior. I know warriors. You are a terrorist. A
    species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted
    murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper
    Santiago had it right when you first were taken off
    that plane and into custody and you wondered where
    the press and where the TV crews were, and he said
    you're no big deal.
    You're no big deal.

    What your counsel, what your able counsel and what
    the equally able United States attorneys have
    grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know
    how tried to grapple with, is why you did something
    so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

    I have listened respectfully to what you have to
    say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask
    yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to
    do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of
    doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not
    satisfy you. But as I search this entire record, it
    comes as close to understanding as I know.
    It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most
    precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual
    freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we
    choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or
    not believe as we individually choose. Here, in
    this society, the very winds carry freedom. They
    carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is
    because we prize individual freedom so much that you
    are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that
    everyone can see, truly see that justice is
    administered fairly, individually, and discretely.
    It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are
    striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed
    appeals, will go on in their representation of you
    before other judges.

    We are about it. Because we all know that the way we
    treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own
    liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true
    that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to
    preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom.
    Mark it well. The world is not going to long
    remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow
    it will be forgotten. But this, however, will long
    endure Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all
    across America, the American people will gather to
    see that justice, individual justice, justice,not
    war, individual justice is in fact being done. The
    very President of the United States through his
    officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay
    out evidence on which specific matters can be
    judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit
    and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and
    shape and refine our sense of justice.
    See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the
    United States of America. That flag will fly there
    long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands
    for freedom. You know it always will.
    Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

    I think we should have blown up his shoes with him in it but thats just my opinion and this was a much better solution and it makes me damn proud to be an American and a United States Marine.
  2. krisy

    krisy Senior Member

    Mar 30, 2004
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    I agree with you Kathianne. I feel he should fry, myself.
  3. NightTrain

    NightTrain VIP Member

    Aug 29, 2003
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    I remember reading this when it happened, it was truly a great speech by the Judge.

    I still chuckle about the way he was subdued via a fire extinguisher upside his head by a few pissed off midwestern fellows on the plane. His face was mighty lumpy in that car on his way to jail from the airport.
  4. nycflasher

    nycflasher Active Member

    Apr 15, 2004
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    See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the
    United States of America. That flag will fly there
    long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands
    for freedom. You know it always will.
    Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

    ---- I missed that too, Kathianne. Thanks for the update.
    Hope he enjoys American prison.

    And one more time, can we laugh at this stupid fuck who tried to blow up a plane but couldn't get his lighter to work, or whatever.:D

    And, thank God he couldn't, of course.

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