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Trinity said:So I guess we are going to beat this dead horse again!
:dev1: :firing: Nah. Im done beating the horse. its about time we obliterated it from existance.
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Trinity said:So I guess we are going to beat this dead horse again!
Joz said:Apparently.
But as each new person arrives......
History repeats itself.
mrsx said:Your assumption of the interchangability of murder and gay marriage is tendentious. Your assumption of the contrapositive (that unless there is immediate harm to you there is no basis for prohibition) invalid.
mrsx said:There are repeated references to belief systems and social theory but no specific explanation of how gay marriage will cost me money, limit my freedom or in any other concrete, objective way hurt me in my actual life.
gop_jeff said:Using your logic, I could argue that murder should be legalized in New England, because it's not costing me money, limiting my freedom, or hurting me in my life, since I live on the West Coast.
You misunderstand; I'm not condemning. With each new person comes new ideas.Avatar4321 said:Repeating the arguments you make helps strengthen your own arguments finding loopholes etc. Besides its an important and fun topic to discuss.
Oh, I see. So "following your logic," if a lesbian has an abortion, it's a good thing, right?Avatar4321 said:1) Both murder and homosexuality dramaticly shortens a persons life expectancy.
2) Everything that involves marriage and sex involves life. And you disrespect life and death when you are irresponsible with the power to give or take life.
I am always amazed at some people who seem to think that their sexual conduct effects nobody and nothing. It's short sighted. the power to create life is one that is given to almost all people. And with great power comes great responsibility. Those who dont act responsibly will regret it someday. and their actions will effect GENERATIONS of society. When are people going to wake up and realize there actions have consequences on all of society and not just themselves.
mrsx said:Oh, I see. So "following your logic," if a lesbian has an abortion, it's a good thing, right?
mrsx said:Oh, I see. So "following your logic," if a lesbian has an abortion, it's a good thing, right?
Let it go Stitch. Its a losing battle around here. And you already have 2 mods posting against you, so it might behoove you to switch topics and let this one die a peaceful death as it has done so many times before.
Just a suggestion!
I hear that the republicains are trying to pass a law to ban gay marriages in america, but i dont really know why. If you oppose gay marriage, dont get one. Dont mess up other peoples lives because you have a different opinion.
But, your quote of yourself made no sense at all.mrsx said:Your assumption of the interchangability of murder and gay marriage is tendentious. Your assumption of the contrapositive (that unless there is immediate harm to you there is no basis for prohibition) invalid.
Let me explain a little better. You said:
mrsx said:There are repeated references to belief systems and social theory but no specific explanation of how gay marriage will cost me money, limit my freedom or in any other concrete, objective way hurt me in my actual life.
I think your logic is faulty. Thus I replied:
gop_jeff said:Using your logic, I could argue that murder should be legalized in New England, because it's not costing me money, limiting my freedom, or hurting me in my life, since I live on the West Coast.
The whole point is that we have to use a greater test of "does it hurt or affect me personally?" to determine whether something should be legal or not, or we could end up justifying the legalization of murder - which is very obviously wrong. The faulty logic is not mine, but yours.
This already got addressed by the SCOTUS in Lawrence v Texas.Stitchman said:allright, tell me why you guys are against gay marraige?
Because it would mean widespread acceptance of a sexual practice that is demonstrably harmful and dangerous to society.