C_Clayton_Jones
Diamond Member
Part of the problem is that we are voting for idealogies and not people.
Or more likely only ideologues are running for office; there are no sincere, honest people for whom to vote.
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Part of the problem is that we are voting for idealogies and not people.
The 36-year, six-term Hatch was first elected in 1976 on an anti-entrenched incumbent platform. Hatchs campaign line then against his opponent Frank Moss: What do you call a Senator whos served in office for 18 years? You call him home. Now, Hatch is clinging to power after almost four decades in government and vainly attempting to claim the tea party mantle to stave off Liljenquists David vs. Goliath primary challenge.
The 36-year, six-term Hatch was first elected in 1976 on an anti-entrenched incumbent platform. Hatchs campaign line then against his opponent Frank Moss: What do you call a Senator whos served in office for 18 years? You call him home. Now, Hatch is clinging to power after almost four decades in government and vainly attempting to claim the tea party mantle to stave off Liljenquists David vs. Goliath primary challenge.
Michelle Malkin » Tea Party roars: Six-term incumbent Sen. Orrin Hatch forced into primary
It's time for Orrin Hatch to go. Just like his old fogy Utah Rino pal did in 2010. He's a boob and too long poisoned by the D.C. swamp. Hatch caught the liberal disease of greed and is not smart enough to seek a cure.
They want that skinny, water-carrier out!!! I love this stuff. Repub base & Establ. Repub infighting LOL
Livewire | TPM
The tea party group FreedomWorks is working hard to eliminate Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) early this year, the group tells TPM, by making sure he doesnt make it to the final two Republican candidates who can compete in the states uniquely structured primary the same way conservatives defeated longtime incumbent Bob Bennett in 2010.
The 36-year, six-term Hatch was first elected in 1976 on an anti-entrenched incumbent platform. Hatchs campaign line then against his opponent Frank Moss: What do you call a Senator whos served in office for 18 years? You call him home. Now, Hatch is clinging to power after almost four decades in government and vainly attempting to claim the tea party mantle to stave off Liljenquists David vs. Goliath primary challenge.
Michelle Malkin » Tea Party roars: Six-term incumbent Sen. Orrin Hatch forced into primary
It's time for Orrin Hatch to go. Just like his old fogy Utah Rino pal did in 2010. He's a boob and too long poisoned by the D.C. swamp. Hatch caught the liberal disease of greed and is not smart enough to seek a cure.
But i have to keep asking the question- if the GOP has gone so far to the right that even Orrin Hatch, a beloved supporter of Ronald Reagan, is too "liberal" for some in the GOP, in the most conservative place in the country, what is the GOP coming to?
Hatch is an easy target for the TEA party because they know if they can beat him in the primary, whoever they put up will win the general.
I do worry about the GOP where people who were considered stalwarts for decades no longer have a home.
And let the chips fall where they may.
In general replacing some of the establishment crop isn't necessarily a bad thing IMO.
This is it!!! I want Hatch to win his Primary because we need that RINO in Washington
Utah's Hatch battles Tea Party in Republican caucus - Yahoo! News
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (Reuters) - Veteran U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch faces what may prove to be the toughest re-election bid of his 36-year tenure, as he battles a challenge on Thursday by two younger Tea Party candidates in Utah's Republican caucus.
The 36-year, six-term Hatch was first elected in 1976 on an anti-entrenched incumbent platform. Hatchs campaign line then against his opponent Frank Moss: What do you call a Senator whos served in office for 18 years? You call him home. Now, Hatch is clinging to power after almost four decades in government and vainly attempting to claim the tea party mantle to stave off Liljenquists David vs. Goliath primary challenge.
Michelle Malkin » Tea Party roars: Six-term incumbent Sen. Orrin Hatch forced into primary
It's time for Orrin Hatch to go. Just like his old fogy Utah Rino pal did in 2010. He's a boob and too long poisoned by the D.C. swamp. Hatch caught the liberal disease of greed and is not smart enough to seek a cure.
But i have to keep asking the question- if the GOP has gone so far to the right that even Orrin Hatch, a beloved supporter of Ronald Reagan, is too "liberal" for some in the GOP, in the most conservative place in the country, what is the GOP coming to?
Hatch is an easy target for the TEA party because they know if they can beat him in the primary, whoever they put up will win the general.
I do worry about the GOP where people who were considered stalwarts for decades no longer have a home.
These people are not conservatives. Theyre not Republicans, Hatch angrily responds. Theyre radical libertarians and Im doggone offended by it.
Then Hatch, a former boxer, turns combative. I despise these people, and Im not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth.
Michelle Malkin » Tea Party roars: Six-term incumbent Sen. Orrin Hatch forced into primary
It's time for Orrin Hatch to go. Just like his old fogy Utah Rino pal did in 2010. He's a boob and too long poisoned by the D.C. swamp. Hatch caught the liberal disease of greed and is not smart enough to seek a cure.
But i have to keep asking the question- if the GOP has gone so far to the right that even Orrin Hatch, a beloved supporter of Ronald Reagan, is too "liberal" for some in the GOP, in the most conservative place in the country, what is the GOP coming to?
Hatch is an easy target for the TEA party because they know if they can beat him in the primary, whoever they put up will win the general.
I do worry about the GOP where people who were considered stalwarts for decades no longer have a home.
So far right Mussolini would carry the nomination at this point.
Michelle Malkin » Tea Party roars: Six-term incumbent Sen. Orrin Hatch forced into primary
It's time for Orrin Hatch to go. Just like his old fogy Utah Rino pal did in 2010. He's a boob and too long poisoned by the D.C. swamp. Hatch caught the liberal disease of greed and is not smart enough to seek a cure.
But i have to keep asking the question- if the GOP has gone so far to the right that even Orrin Hatch, a beloved supporter of Ronald Reagan, is too "liberal" for some in the GOP, in the most conservative place in the country, what is the GOP coming to?
Hatch is an easy target for the TEA party because they know if they can beat him in the primary, whoever they put up will win the general.
I do worry about the GOP where people who were considered stalwarts for decades no longer have a home.
Fiscal sanity?
These people are not conservatives. Theyre not Republicans, Hatch angrily responds. Theyre radical libertarians and Im doggone offended by it.
Then Hatch, a former boxer, turns combative. I despise these people, and Im not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth.
Full disclosure: I happen to be a "radical libertarian".
Hatch is more like Santorum (R) than I thought. A big gov't conservative in t-partier clothing. I guess I'd rather have him than a t-partier.
Understood, given its Utah; but both are equally repulsive prospects.
In fact Joey? LEAVE.
*I* am going to be on you like white on rice herin.
as long as you post/ YOU can't hide from me.
*I* am going to destroy you.
So much for conservative tolerance.
This is it!!! I want Hatch to win his Primary because we need that RINO in Washington
Utah's Hatch battles Tea Party in Republican caucus - Yahoo! News
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (Reuters) - Veteran U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch faces what may prove to be the toughest re-election bid of his 36-year tenure, as he battles a challenge on Thursday by two younger Tea Party candidates in Utah's Republican caucus.
If he is beaten by a Tea party type, that candidate will win in Utah; the Republicans are going RIGHT off a cliff.
And let the chips fall where they may.
In general replacing some of the establishment crop isn't necessarily a bad thing IMO.
it is when you replace them with koch-funded rightwingnut hatchetmen.
Anyone notice when Pelosi and the far leftist in congress helped to get rid of most of the so-called moderate Democrats in congress that was a good thing, but when Republicans want to get rid some of the moderate Republicans, they are extremist Orin Hatch should hold his seat because he is a good guy. Ive always liked him for the most part, but if he loses? Thats what his constituents want. Nothing extreme about that, its the way the process works.
Anyone notice when Pelosi and the far leftist in congress helped to get rid of most of the so-called moderate Democrats in congress that was a good thing, but when Republicans want to get rid some of the moderate Republicans, they are extremist Orin Hatch should hold his seat because he is a good guy. Ive always liked him for the most part, but if he loses? Thats what his constituents want. Nothing extreme about that, its the way the process works.
I'm just wondering when this purge of "Moderate" Democrats happened? Can you give some examples? Even Joe Leiberman (D-Israel) kept his seat after being the last guy to still stick up for the Iraq war.
According to an analysis by The Huffington Post, 22 of the 46 Blue Dogs up for re-election went down on Tuesday. Notable losses included Rep. Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-S.D.), the coalition's co-chair for administration, and Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.), the co-chair for policy. Two members were running for higher office (both lost), four were retiring and three races were still too close to call.
The Blue Dogs, a coalition of moderate to conservative Democrats in the House, have consistently frustrated their more progressive colleagues and activists within the party, especially during the health care debate. Blue Dog members pushed to limit the scope and the cost of the legislation and resisted some of the mandates of the bill. Last summer, seven of the eight Blue Dogs on the House Energy and Commerce Committee even threatened to block health care reform unless it met their cost requirements.
Other areas where Blue Dogs have helped put the brakes on ambitious progressive priorities are global warming measures and legislation that would make it easier for workers to unionize.
"Since they can vote with the Republicans in order to get their way around here, that doesn't sit well with progressives -- who don't want to vote with Republicans ever," Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Cali.), co-chair of the House Progressive Caucus, told the Wall Street Journal in July 2009