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That is born of citizen parentS (plural) in the U.S.. A team of researchers (lawyers) has uncovered recorded writings that define what the term natural born citizen is and it turns out to be the 'Father Of The 14th Amendment', John Bingham is the man who defined the definition on the House floor as the evidence shows. This is why this issue needs to be investigated and laid to rest. More evidence from our own U.S. archives is being uncovered by excellent lawyers and teams of researchers and it is not leaning towards Obama's favor when it comes towards his eligibility problem. It looks like the Father of the 14th Amendment and the Wong Kim Ark ruling are trouble for Obama and they (White House) know this. This news has gone viral the last few days being sent everywhere to lawmakers who are working on eligibility bills in their states, political blogs, newspapers etc.
Apparently the debate was recorded and here is Binghams words:
Please read this excellent article about the find:
The House of Representatives Definition of “Natural Born Citizen” = Born of citizen “parents” in the US. « Natural Born Citizen
During a debate (see pg. 2791) regarding a certain Dr. Houard, who had been incarcerated in Spain, the issue was raised on the floor of the House of Representatives as to whether the man was a US citizen. Representative Bingham (of Ohio), stated on the floor:
As to the question of citizenship I am willing to resolve all doubts in favor of a citizen of the United States. That Dr. Houard is a natural-born citizen of the United States there is not room for the shadow of a doubt. He was born of naturalized parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, and by the express words of the Constitution, as amended to-day, he is declared to all the world to be a citizen of the United States by birth. (The term to-day, as used by Bingham, means to date. Obviously, the Constitution had not been amended on April 25, 1872.)
Notice that Bingham declares Houard to be a natural-born citizen by citing two factors born of citizen parents in the US.
John Bingham, aka father of the 14th Amendment, was an abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincolns assassins. Ten years earlier, he stated on the House floor:
All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians. (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))
Then in 1866, Bingham also stated on the House floor:
Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
No other Representative ever took issue with these words on the floor of the House. If you read the Congressional Globe to study these debates, you will see that many of the underlying issues were hotly contested. However, Binghams definition of natural born citizen (born of citizen parents in the US) was never challenged on the floor of the House.
Furthermore, the Supreme Courts holding in Wong Kim Ark did not address Presidential eligibility, nor did it define natural born citizen. It simply clarified who was a citizen. Had the framers of the 14th Amendment sought to define nbc, they would have used the words natural born in the Amendment. But they didnt.
The definition of natural born citizen as stated on the House floor = born in the US to parents who are citizens. Its not like those cats were incapable of correcting each others mistakes. Since no Supreme Court case ever stated a different definition of natural born citizen, and no Represenative ever challenged Bingham on this point, the House definition stands and officially remains unchallenged as of today. If the House wants to change this definition, let them bring the issue to the floor now and properly debate
Apparently the debate was recorded and here is Binghams words:
Please read this excellent article about the find:
The House of Representatives Definition of “Natural Born Citizen” = Born of citizen “parents” in the US. « Natural Born Citizen
During a debate (see pg. 2791) regarding a certain Dr. Houard, who had been incarcerated in Spain, the issue was raised on the floor of the House of Representatives as to whether the man was a US citizen. Representative Bingham (of Ohio), stated on the floor:
As to the question of citizenship I am willing to resolve all doubts in favor of a citizen of the United States. That Dr. Houard is a natural-born citizen of the United States there is not room for the shadow of a doubt. He was born of naturalized parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, and by the express words of the Constitution, as amended to-day, he is declared to all the world to be a citizen of the United States by birth. (The term to-day, as used by Bingham, means to date. Obviously, the Constitution had not been amended on April 25, 1872.)
Notice that Bingham declares Houard to be a natural-born citizen by citing two factors born of citizen parents in the US.
John Bingham, aka father of the 14th Amendment, was an abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincolns assassins. Ten years earlier, he stated on the House floor:
All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians. (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))
Then in 1866, Bingham also stated on the House floor:
Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
No other Representative ever took issue with these words on the floor of the House. If you read the Congressional Globe to study these debates, you will see that many of the underlying issues were hotly contested. However, Binghams definition of natural born citizen (born of citizen parents in the US) was never challenged on the floor of the House.
Furthermore, the Supreme Courts holding in Wong Kim Ark did not address Presidential eligibility, nor did it define natural born citizen. It simply clarified who was a citizen. Had the framers of the 14th Amendment sought to define nbc, they would have used the words natural born in the Amendment. But they didnt.
The definition of natural born citizen as stated on the House floor = born in the US to parents who are citizens. Its not like those cats were incapable of correcting each others mistakes. Since no Supreme Court case ever stated a different definition of natural born citizen, and no Represenative ever challenged Bingham on this point, the House definition stands and officially remains unchallenged as of today. If the House wants to change this definition, let them bring the issue to the floor now and properly debate