Following. Life imitating art or art imitating life?

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    We'll see, but it looks creepy enough to rate a good viewing.
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    The other problem I have with JFK was that he had the greatest legislative genius in American history, LBJ, on the sidelines while most of JFK's legislative agenda bogged down because the Ivy League crew were so sure they were so much smarter than a Texas hick.
     
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    the chip on your shoulder is showing. that said, I think LBJ's accomplishments get overshadowed because like Carter and Hoover, he was a victim of the times.

    He was a profile in courage when he decided not to run for reelection. That took balls.

    JFK envy is so boring. get a life.
     
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    I do have to admit I admire JFK's sex life and pre-book-depository-bullet-shower hair cut.
     
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    The only man alive who could have got the Civil Rights act through that Congress was LBJ, there was no other person in the country who could have worked that phone magic. The tapes are a wonder to behold.

    Obama should have listened to them and learned how a master at legislation works.
     
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    I admired the Kennedy family's dedication to public service. If my brother, uncle, dad, were killed...:doubt:
     
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    Yes, Ted really enjoyed the Senate bar. And Robert the Monroe's public service at that level attracts.
     
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    What did Nixon's secret plan to end the war cost, double the lives that were lost before he was elected? And Nixon made mistakes. ''

    Look at Ronald Reagan...responsible for the highest death toll of US Marines in one single day?

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    and your petty obsession with Ted is what makes most people you know roll their eyes.

    unhealthy to fuck your own mind
     
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    I would not say I was obsessed with Ted, at least not his politics, but I do admire his drinking habits. A less sober Senate is a productive Senate.

    As to Nixon, his draw down and train was actually establishing a South Vietnamese army that could fight, Abram's moved from body count to hold and clear and by 1973 most of South Vietnam was under that government's control.

    This is why the North had to use a conventional mass invasion two years after the US withdrew forces, and more disgracefully pledged military support, because the insurgency in the South had largely been defeated.

    This combined with his China triumph, would have, in a Nixon full term, placed enormous pressure on the North to come to terms with a two state solution.
     
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    Nixon was stuck in the past. Vietnam was a loser long before and he knew it. But being intelligent and arrogant, he and Kissinger sent tens of thousands of Americans and countless others, to their premature deaths.
     

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