Flying the confederate flag is racists way of using the "N" word

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Cons be like: If the confederate flag is offensive then EVERY flag should be taken down like this one

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[Camp]

The Ku Klux Klan uses the confederate flag as a way to promote hate and bigotry. So does the Aryan Nation.
The confederacy LOST THE WAR! When the losers lose, their flag is torn down. They have no right to promote their bigotry any more.
The rebel flag will be torn down on the South Carolina capital. The bigots will lose the war yet again.

You don't need to even mention the KKK or the Aryan nation. The idea that the Confederate Battle Jack is a racist symbol only because hate groups have appropriated itfalse. It began as a symbol of white supremacy.

While there was plenty of bigotry to go around between the North and the South, the Confederacy was founded on the notion that blacks are inferior to whites, and that black slaves and white owners was the natural state of being. If you doubt me, read the cornerstone speech by Alexander Hamilton Stephens.

Read Lincoln's letter to Horace Greely. Actually LEARN something about the Civil War before you run your mouth. The Civil War had very little to do with slavery. Slavery (and the Emancipation Proclamation) had little to nothing to do with the war.

Lincoln's purpose was not to end slavery, but the South very much did secede over their perceived threats to the institution of slavery. The South was also very much opposed to State's Rights, as it desired a system whereby they could impose slavery across state lines. South Carolina admitted as much in its own secession declaration.

Pardner, I don't know what moron taught you History, but they did you a great disservice. Another brainwashed fool.

Just for giggles, what is the 240 year old symbol you mentioned?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The Ku Klux Klan uses the confederate flag as a way to promote hate and bigotry. So does the Aryan Nation.
The confederacy LOST THE WAR! When the losers lose, their flag is torn down. They have no right to promote their bigotry any more.
The rebel flag will be torn down on the South Carolina capital. The bigots will lose the war yet again.

You don't need to even mention the KKK or the Aryan nation. The idea that the Confederate Battle Jack is a racist symbol only because hate groups have appropriated itfalse. It began as a symbol of white supremacy.

While there was plenty of bigotry to go around between the North and the South, the Confederacy was founded on the notion that blacks are inferior to whites, and that black slaves and white owners was the natural state of being. If you doubt me, read the cornerstone speech by Alexander Hamilton Stephens.

Read Lincoln's letter to Horace Greely. Actually LEARN something about the Civil War before you run your mouth. The Civil War had very little to do with slavery. Slavery (and the Emancipation Proclamation) had little to nothing to do with the war.

Lincoln's purpose was not to end slavery, but the South very much did secede over their perceived threats to the institution of slavery. The South was also very much opposed to State's Rights, as it desired a system whereby they could impose slavery across state lines. South Carolina admitted as much in its own secession declaration.

Pardner, I don't know what moron taught you History, but they did you a great disservice. Another brainwashed fool.

I'm just going off what the state of South Carolina itself stated.

Citation:
Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina. Constitutional Convention
(1860-1862). S 131055. South Carolina Department of Archives and History, Columbia, South Carolina.
Declaration of Immediate Causes Which May Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union 24 December 1860


Give it a look. Their entire justification is slavery.



And the cornerstone speech by Alexander Hamilton Stephens - where it is explicitly stated the Confederacy is founded upon the idea that white owners and black slaves is the natural state of things.

But hey, why look at ALL history when you can only look at a narrow part of it and convince yourself of the utterly retarded idea that the Confederacy wasn't founded on anything other than white supremacy?

 

[BlindBoo]

It is up to the state which flag to fly and I'll support their decision whichever way it goes.

 

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The Ku Klux Klan uses the confederate flag as a way to promote hate and bigotry. So does the Aryan Nation.
The confederacy LOST THE WAR! When the losers lose, their flag is torn down. They have no right to promote their bigotry any more.
The rebel flag will be torn down on the South Carolina capital. The bigots will lose the war yet again.

You don't need to even mention the KKK or the Aryan nation. The idea that the Confederate Battle Jack is a racist symbol only because hate groups have appropriated itfalse. It began as a symbol of white supremacy.

While there was plenty of bigotry to go around between the North and the South, the Confederacy was founded on the notion that blacks are inferior to whites, and that black slaves and white owners was the natural state of being. If you doubt me, read the cornerstone speech by Alexander Hamilton Stephens.

Read Lincoln's letter to Horace Greely. Actually LEARN something about the Civil War before you run your mouth. The Civil War had very little to do with slavery. Slavery (and the Emancipation Proclamation) had little to nothing to do with the war.

Lincoln's purpose was not to end slavery, but the South very much did secede over their perceived threats to the institution of slavery. The South was also very much opposed to State's Rights, as it desired a system whereby they could impose slavery across state lines. South Carolina admitted as much in its own secession declaration.

Pardner, I don't know what moron taught you History, but they did you a great disservice. Another brainwashed fool.

Abraham Lincoln Quote

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

Racist Quote by Abe Lincoln Happy Black History Month darwinian remiix

. While it’s not even commonly conceded that Lincoln attempted to re-colonize the freed slaves at any point (scholars generally believe that he considered and then dismissed the idea pre-emancipation, but even that's yet to take hold of the popular imagination), Magness took it a step further, digging into historical documents and finding that Lincoln actively pursued a re-colonization well after signing the Emancipation Proclamation. It’s something that should change everything about our relationship to Honest Abe—yet it’s still being roundly ignored by the public, like much of the pre-existing scholarship on our former president's racist convictions.

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-l...ried-to-get-the-slaves-to-leave-america-55802

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

People must be allowed to fly any flag they want for any purpose. If a person wants to fly the confederate flag as a symbol of heritage, they have that right. If they want to fly it as a symbol of racism, they have that right also. When we have to justify our free speech to someone it is no longer free speech.

I'm not sure what that has to do with whether or not government should fly it.

Sorry, I am opposed to having it flown on government property, but respect the peoples right to decide that for themselves.

I don't think anyone is arguing it should be illegal for a private citizen to communicate their hatred with a Confederate Battle Jack. Go for it. Free speech and all.

 

[hangover]

Anyone surprised there aren't any no votes? Cons lose another one.

 

[Yarddog]

People must be allowed to fly any flag they want for any purpose. If a person wants to fly the confederate flag as a symbol of heritage, they have that right. If they want to fly it as a symbol of racism, they have that right also. When we have to justify our free speech to someone it is no longer free speech.

I'm not sure what that has to do with whether or not government should fly it.

I agree with that. In that the Government is supposed to represent the people, if a good number of the population is offended by something the State is doing,then the State needs to address that. . Its less of a free speech issue in that case but I would say individual citizens have a right to own and display any flag, because a flag doesnt necessarily hold the same meaning to each person.

 

[Pop23]

Anyone surprised there aren't any no votes? Cons lose another one.

The poll might be different if it was phrased correctly. When you want the opinion it would read "should" not "will"

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

It is up to the state which flag to fly and I'll support their decision whichever way it goes.

It is up to them, yes. If they want to communicate South Carolina is racist, then they should fly it.

 

[BlindBoo]

It is up to the state which flag to fly and I'll support their decision whichever way it goes.

It is up to them, yes. If they want to communicate South Carolina is racist, then they should fly it.

It's pretty clear that has been their intention since 1962.

 

[RandallFlagg]

The Ku Klux Klan uses the confederate flag as a way to promote hate and bigotry. So does the Aryan Nation.
The confederacy LOST THE WAR! When the losers lose, their flag is torn down. They have no right to promote their bigotry any more.
The rebel flag will be torn down on the South Carolina capital. The bigots will lose the war yet again.

You don't need to even mention the KKK or the Aryan nation. The idea that the Confederate Battle Jack is a racist symbol only because hate groups have appropriated itfalse. It began as a symbol of white supremacy.

While there was plenty of bigotry to go around between the North and the South, the Confederacy was founded on the notion that blacks are inferior to whites, and that black slaves and white owners was the natural state of being. If you doubt me, read the cornerstone speech by Alexander Hamilton Stephens.

Read Lincoln's letter to Horace Greely. Actually LEARN something about the Civil War before you run your mouth. The Civil War had very little to do with slavery. Slavery (and the Emancipation Proclamation) had little to nothing to do with the war.

Lincoln's purpose was not to end slavery, but the South very much did secede over their perceived threats to the institution of slavery. The South was also very much opposed to State's Rights, as it desired a system whereby they could impose slavery across state lines. South Carolina admitted as much in its own secession declaration.

Pardner, I don't know what moron taught you History, but they did you a great disservice. Another brainwashed fool.

Abraham Lincoln Quote

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

Racist Quote by Abe Lincoln Happy Black History Month darwinian remiix

. While it’s not even commonly conceded that Lincoln attempted to re-colonize the freed slaves at any point (scholars generally believe that he considered and then dismissed the idea pre-emancipation, but even that's yet to take hold of the popular imagination), Magness took it a step further, digging into historical documents and finding that Lincoln actively pursued a re-colonization well after signing the Emancipation Proclamation. It’s something that should change everything about our relationship to Honest Abe—yet it’s still being roundly ignored by the public, like much of the pre-existing scholarship on our former president's racist convictions.

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-l...ried-to-get-the-slaves-to-leave-america-55802

The Ku Klux Klan uses the confederate flag as a way to promote hate and bigotry. So does the Aryan Nation.
The confederacy LOST THE WAR! When the losers lose, their flag is torn down. They have no right to promote their bigotry any more.
The rebel flag will be torn down on the South Carolina capital. The bigots will lose the war yet again.

You don't need to even mention the KKK or the Aryan nation. The idea that the Confederate Battle Jack is a racist symbol only because hate groups have appropriated itfalse. It began as a symbol of white supremacy.

While there was plenty of bigotry to go around between the North and the South, the Confederacy was founded on the notion that blacks are inferior to whites, and that black slaves and white owners was the natural state of being. If you doubt me, read the cornerstone speech by Alexander Hamilton Stephens.

Read Lincoln's letter to Horace Greely. Actually LEARN something about the Civil War before you run your mouth. The Civil War had very little to do with slavery. Slavery (and the Emancipation Proclamation) had little to nothing to do with the war.

Lincoln's purpose was not to end slavery, but the South very much did secede over their perceived threats to the institution of slavery. The South was also very much opposed to State's Rights, as it desired a system whereby they could impose slavery across state lines. South Carolina admitted as much in its own secession declaration.

Pardner, I don't know what moron taught you History, but they did you a great disservice. Another brainwashed fool.

Abraham Lincoln Quote

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

Racist Quote by Abe Lincoln Happy Black History Month darwinian remiix

. While it’s not even commonly conceded that Lincoln attempted to re-colonize the freed slaves at any point (scholars generally believe that he considered and then dismissed the idea pre-emancipation, but even that's yet to take hold of the popular imagination), Magness took it a step further, digging into historical documents and finding that Lincoln actively pursued a re-colonization well after signing the Emancipation Proclamation. It’s something that should change everything about our relationship to Honest Abe—yet it’s still being roundly ignored by the public, like much of the pre-existing scholarship on our former president's racist convictions.

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-l...ried-to-get-the-slaves-to-leave-america-55802

And yet Lincoln is deified to this day. He imprisioned Newspaper editors who disagreed with him, suspended laws to further his agenda and doomed the South to the carpetbaggers who raped what was left of the South after the "war" ended.

All to "save" the union.....