Quantum Windbag
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- May 9, 2010
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I hate to agree, QW is usually pretty quality but unless you have a direct quote saying "I want to scrap (or similar) the constitution" it's putting words in someones mouth.
I do agree that it's sad times when people in power want to attack media (fox news in this case) but of course never mention CNN/MSNBC, NPR and so on. This country is falling apart and I'm starting to believe it might lead to civil war.
We have 2 sides in essence, one that would be happy with a King as long as that King thinks like them and then people that support the constitution and a freer society. It's really that divided, and it's sad. This is not a liberal/conservative argument either as both sides are hypocrites when it comes to the constitution. Liberals seem to be worse only because I believe they as a whole are far less educated in politics as proven by many studies. However with the birth of the Neocons, Republicans near match Liberals with support for a warfare/welfare state.
The Bush Neocons are almost the same people that would call themselves Progressive liberals. A true liberal and a true conservative are relatively the same thing as they would have to follow the rules of the constitution. This fake Pro light rail/HC/war/spend Liberal and fake conservative BS has managed to blur the lines. Today your average BS liberal VS your average BS conservative only differ on pathetic issues like Gay marriage and abortion.
The only evidence that you will take is a direct quote of someone saying they want to scrap the Constitution before you will believe that is what they want to do? That might very well be the attitude that allowed Chavez to gain so much power in Venezuela, since he never actually said that was his goal no one saw it coming until he had already done it.
I did not say that he intends to scrap the Constitution because he said he wants to, he probably thinks he is actually supporting it. The problem here is not his intent, but the result of the actions he is proposing. If the government starts dictating who is a "real" reporter, and who is an opinion reporter, we will eventually reach the point where the only news sources we have are from the government. That, believe it or not, will scrap the Constitution.
You can phrase the discussion however you want, but unless we concentrate on individual freedom we will eventually end up with a tyrannical government, even if we elect it.