FBI Attempts to Make 'Libertarians' the Poster Children for Domestic Extremism

[Robodoon]

FBI Attempts to Make 'Libertarians' the Poster Children for Domestic Extremism

As the definition of a domestic extremist continues to expand to include activists for peace, animal rights, currency, natural health, liberty and other noble causes, the FBI is ready to make an example out of one group in particular: Libertarians.

The FBI held a press conference Monday to "increase the visibility of the threat" that people who oppose taxes and regulations, government intrusions into their private property, and the desire for sound money allegedly pose to local authorities.

Although the FBI vaguely attempts to label this group as "sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens'", the description sounds an awful lot like me, and millions of other liberty-minded people in America that don't associate with any group.

They also sound like Ron Paul supporters.

According to Reuters:

Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens,' believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Notice the resolute use of the word "extremists" but the vague description "sometimes known as sovereign citizens." Yet the description that these "extremists may refuse to pay taxes and defy government environmental regulations" sounds more like General Electric than average liberty activists who the FBI clearly seems hellbent on demonizing.

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Comment: The war on terror has always been about a war on Freedom..."we the people"

 

[jaybags]

next thing you know holding the government and its agencies accountable will be considered extreme

 

[Ravi]

FBI Attempts to Make 'Libertarians' the Poster Children for Domestic Extremism

As the definition of a domestic extremist continues to expand to include activists for peace, animal rights, currency, natural health, liberty and other noble causes, the FBI is ready to make an example out of one group in particular: Libertarians.

The FBI held a press conference Monday to "increase the visibility of the threat" that people who oppose taxes and regulations, government intrusions into their private property, and the desire for sound money allegedly pose to local authorities.

Although the FBI vaguely attempts to label this group as "sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens'", the description sounds an awful lot like me, and millions of other liberty-minded people in America that don't associate with any group.

They also sound like Ron Paul supporters.

According to Reuters:

Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens,' believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Notice the resolute use of the word "extremists" but the vague description "sometimes known as sovereign citizens." Yet the description that these "extremists may refuse to pay taxes and defy government environmental regulations" sounds more like General Electric than average liberty activists who the FBI clearly seems hellbent on demonizing.

Continued


Comment: The war on terror has always been about a war on Freedom..."we the people"

These "sovereign citizens" are not libertarians.

Interesting that you're cheerleading for criminals.

 

[Decepticon]

Want Libertarianism?
Move to Somalia.

It's run ENTIRELY by enlightened self-interest.

Sovereign Citizens kill cops and think themselves above the law.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

"Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said."


A whole 18! Folks we have a major problem.

 

[Valox]

I think what really put them on the FBI watch list is the two incidents that involved shooting at police officers over minor traffic violations, which lead to the death of two cops.

 

[Valox]

Want Libertarianism?
Move to Somalia.

It's run ENTIRELY by enlightened self-interest.

Sovereign Citizens kill cops and think themselves above the law.

You mean the failed communist state? But nice try.

 

[bayoubill]

Want Libertarianism?
Move to Somalia.

It's run ENTIRELY by enlightened self-interest.

Sovereign Citizens kill cops and think themselves above the law.

I like you...

I promise you a quick and painless death when I take over the world...

 

[Robodoon]

FBI Attempts to Make 'Libertarians' the Poster Children for Domestic Extremism

As the definition of a domestic extremist continues to expand to include activists for peace, animal rights, currency, natural health, liberty and other noble causes, the FBI is ready to make an example out of one group in particular: Libertarians.

The FBI held a press conference Monday to "increase the visibility of the threat" that people who oppose taxes and regulations, government intrusions into their private property, and the desire for sound money allegedly pose to local authorities.

Although the FBI vaguely attempts to label this group as "sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens'", the description sounds an awful lot like me, and millions of other liberty-minded people in America that don't associate with any group.

They also sound like Ron Paul supporters.

According to Reuters:

Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens,' believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Notice the resolute use of the word "extremists" but the vague description "sometimes known as sovereign citizens." Yet the description that these "extremists may refuse to pay taxes and defy government environmental regulations" sounds more like General Electric than average liberty activists who the FBI clearly seems hellbent on demonizing.

Continued


Comment: The war on terror has always been about a war on Freedom..."we the people"

These "sovereign citizens" are not libertarians.

Interesting that you're cheerleading for criminals.

Notice the resolute use of the word "extremists" but the vague description "sometimes known as sovereign citizens." Yet the description that these "extremists may refuse to pay taxes and defy government environmental regulations" sounds more like General Electric than average liberty activists who the FBI clearly seems hellbent on demonizing.

Watch a lot of MSM? or Perhaps involved in education or Political Correctness?

 

[Robodoon]

Want Libertarianism?
Move to Somalia.

It's run ENTIRELY by enlightened self-interest.

Sovereign Citizens kill cops and think themselves above the law.

Notice the blanked statement

Notice the resolute use of the word "extremists" but the vague description "sometimes known as sovereign citizens."

And remember who was lately called terrorists. Returning Vets, Pro -Life people, second Amendment supporters, people who don't like the UN, Supporters of the Constitution etc

Classic American ideas are being listed as terrorist ideas.... Seems the Commies have taken over, well...its really the Banking class who funded them the whole time.

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May 2007 - The Communist-Capitalist Alliance Part II
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[waltky]

Sovereign Movement On The Rise...

Anti-government 'sovereign movement' on the rise in U.S.
30 Mar.`12 – Gary Thomas will never forget the letter he received in early 2000. It was from John Joe Gray, a suspect in a felony assault case, offering a not-so-subtle warning to the area's chief criminal investigator: He had no intention of answering charges that he had attacked a state trooper.

"What he said was this: 'If y'all come to get me, bring body bags,' " said Thomas, now a local justice of the peace. Thomas remembers the message clearly, not because of its unvarnished threat, but because — after 12 years — Gray, who doesn't acknowledge the authority of any government, continues to dare police to come and get him. Sequestered on a 50-acre, wooded compound in East Texas since jumping bail more than a decade ago, Gray and his clan have effectively outlasted the administrations of four local sheriffs, all of whom have decided that John Joe's arrest is not worth the risk of a violent confrontation. "The risk of loss of life on both ends is far too great," said Anderson County District Attorney Doug Lowe, who first sought to prosecute Gray for the alleged Christmas Eve 1999 assault of Texas Trooper Jim Cleland. "I believed it then; I still feel that way."

The stalemate, perhaps the longest-running standoff in the U.S. between law enforcement and a fugitive living in plain sight, is also emblematic of what the FBI believes is a troubling re-emergence of an anti-government movement that vaulted to notoriety in 1995. Then, one of its disaffected sympathizers, Timothy McVeigh— angered by the government's botched 1993 raid of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas — detonated a truck bomb outside the Oklahoma City federal building, killing 168 people in what was at the time the deadliest terrorist attack on U.S. soil. In the past three years, there has been growing concern over activities of so-called "sovereign citizens," who like the Grays and many of their anti-government predecessors "claim to exist beyond the realm of government authority," according to a January FBI bulletin to state and local law enforcement officials warning of the potential for violence.

The sovereign movement, estimated by the Southern Poverty Law Center to number 100,000 ardent followers and about 200,000 sympathizers across the country, is rooted in an ideology that rejects government authority at its most basic levels, from its power to tax to the enforcement of criminal laws, including common traffic regulations. The law center, which tracks extremist groups in the USA, based its estimates partly on its reviews of tax disputes and court documents involving people who do not recognize government authority. Although the FBI does not track sovereigns by number, the bureau does not dispute the law center's estimates, which have swelled dramatically within a national anti-government network of related "patriot" and "militia'' groups. Since 2008, the number of groups surged from 149 to 1,274 in 2011, the law center reported this month.

The rapid growth, according to the law center, has been fueled by a collision of factors, from the troubles related to the struggling economy and foreclosure crisis to the election of President Obama, the nation's first black president. Obama's election prompted a "backlash" from extremist groups who were further angered by decisions to provide government assistance to Wall Street banks and automakers, the law center found. Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director of the FBI's Counterterrorism Division, said the sovereigns have become more active in seeking retaliation against government officials by filing fraudulent lawsuits and liens, seeking billions of dollars in judgments. The actions often follow arrests, evictions, court rulings and other interactions with authorities. At its most extreme, McArthur said, sovereigns have been linked to threats of violence and the murders of six police officers since 2002, including the slayings of officers Brandon Paudert and Bill Evans in West Memphis, Ark., in 2010.

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[Pheonixops]

FBI Attempts to Make 'Libertarians' the Poster Children for Domestic Extremism

As the definition of a domestic extremist continues to expand to include activists for peace, animal rights, currency, natural health, liberty and other noble causes, the FBI is ready to make an example out of one group in particular: Libertarians.

The FBI held a press conference Monday to "increase the visibility of the threat" that people who oppose taxes and regulations, government intrusions into their private property, and the desire for sound money allegedly pose to local authorities.

Although the FBI vaguely attempts to label this group as "sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens'", the description sounds an awful lot like me, and millions of other liberty-minded people in America that don't associate with any group.

They also sound like Ron Paul supporters.

According to Reuters:

Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as 'sovereign citizens,' believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Notice the resolute use of the word "extremists" but the vague description "sometimes known as sovereign citizens." Yet the description that these "extremists may refuse to pay taxes and defy government environmental regulations" sounds more like General Electric than average liberty activists who the FBI clearly seems hellbent on demonizing.

Continued


Comment: The war on terror has always been about a war on Freedom..."we the people"

These "sovereign citizens" are not libertarians.

Interesting that you're cheerleading for criminals.

Yep............ it's funny how some people want to mix them up or act like they are one in the same.

 

[SniperFire]

Want Libertarianism?
Move to Somalia.

It's run ENTIRELY by enlightened self-interest.

Sovereign Citizens kill cops and think themselves above the law.

From the link:

'Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.'


18 crimes, mostly white collar, in a year?

That is about half an hours worth of work for the home boys in innercity Chicago.

LOL

 

[Ed Spacer]

To a degree,libertarians are the kin sisters and brothers of true conservatives.good point.

 

[occupied]

These people are libertarians like Muslims are Al Qaeda. It's a matter of extremes.

 

[Peach]

These people are libertarians like Muslims are Al Qaeda. It's a matter of extremes.

This sounds more like Aryan Nation to me, not libertarians.