Fair Taxes

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    A completely fair tax system would simply have every person at the end of the year mail in $20,000 to the government. No tax rates, not graduated scale, no punishing anyone for making more or spending more, let's just have it fair.

    Would you Conservatives like this?
     
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    Orange_Juice wrote:
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    A completely fair tax system would simply have every person at the end of the year mail in $20,000 to the government.
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    And subvert the constitutional tax structure? Why would ANYONE want to do that?
     
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    No tax system is fair.

    Expecting one to be so is absurd.
     
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    Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society. It is the way that we do as a society what we cannot do as individuals. For better or worse.
     
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    No. That's a third of my income. I'm already getting screwed royally handing over a quarter of it.

    Not to mention what about those who make $40k or less? That half or more of their income.

    How about we go through the government and start axing programs and people that amount to little more than throwing money into the toilet and flushing?

    How about every piece of proposed legislation sent through Congress being required to stand on its own, one-for-one? Let's get that pork under the light instead of on page 57, 4th pparagraph from the bottom.

    The money's there. You lefties just need to get out of the mindset that it's okay to take it from OUR pockets. Hold the government accountable for the money they're already robbing us for instead.
     
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    :clap2::clap2::clap2: Occam's razor and common sense. It' really not that hard.
     
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    What exactly you guys want to cut that will save so much money? Infrastructure? Health care? I know not the military, that should get more money I bet.
     
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    How about a revenue neutral flat tax. This is a PAYGO system so if Cons want a tax cut then they have to actually cut government first and if Dems want health care then it comes out of their pockets in higher taxes. Both would now have the means to accomplish what they want. Sounds fair too me...
     
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    Instead of a flat cost (like the $20,000 you mentioned) why not a flat rate (like x% of income)? Why wouldn't this work?

    Mike Huckabee's Fair Tax Plan; would this work?

    "Huckabee's 'Fair Tax' Plan

    Would eliminate all federal income and payroll taxes, including personal, corporate, gift, estate, capital gains, Social Security and Medicare, and shut down the Internal Revenue Service.
    Would replace the income tax with a national sales tax of 30 cents on the dollar.
    Would provide a prepaid monthly rebate ("prebate") for taxes paid on purchases up to the poverty line, meaning people below it would be effectively exempt from the tax.
    Would only apply to new goods.
    Is intended to keep the federal government's revenue the same.
    Promises to make American products more competitive because prices would not be increased to cover taxes and compliance costs.
    Promises to encourage growth by promoting investment and capital formation."

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17209388
     
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    You could start with Congressional pay and perks. Nobody else gets to park for free in DC. Nobody else gets their cleaning done free. Nobody else gets trips home at taxpayer's expense.

    And we damned sure don't get paid to work only half the year and accomplish nothing but investigation steroids in friggin baseball. How about that budget anyone over the age of 10 knows is due every October and is NEVER on time?

    You could trim at least a third of jobs in the bureaucracy down just by dumping the ones that duplicate another.

    I got news for you as far as the military is concerned ... they operate on a shoestring as it is. What are you going to cut from them?

    We've already had a major manpower drawdown and base realignment and closings. There's just not a lot for you to play with.

    The government shouldn't have a dime invested in healthcare beyond the services provided for its employees. Solves that problem.
     

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