Energy Catalyzer Test in Italy is a Success!

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    News:Real-Time Updates on the October 6, 2011 E-Cat Test - PESWiki

    This is not some krank doing silly things with his moms cup in the garage.

    If this really checks out, and I really hope it does, this will change our world in so many ways.

    The machine is being patented and preped for commercial use:
    Cold Fusion From Italy Nearly Commercial Ready | New Energy and Fuel

    Nuclear reaction Confirmed by Swedish physicists last May:
    Swedish Researchers confirm Rossi and Focardi Energy Catalyzer as a Nuclear Process

    More reports on Rossies E-Cat power plant
    Hope Grows as Journals Weigh in on Italian Cold Fusion Breakthrough

    Cold Fusion is coming...Energy Created with no Power for 4 hours

    http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MacyMspecificso.pdf

    Rossi and Focardi LENR Device: Probably Real, With Credit to Piantelli |

    Rossi and Focardi LENR Device: The Melich and Macy Reports |

    Focardi and Rossi Energy Catalyzer first jan 14 demo videos and summary of an online Question and Answer session from Jan 15

    This may very well be a historic day.
     
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    Rossi e-cat – Oct 6 significant test at Nebraska Engineer

    Today Rossi’s Low Energy Nuclear Energy device was tested again in Bologna Italy. Previous test results have come under scrutiny because of technical details in measuring how much energy the device actually put out. The measurement method was altered for this test to answer those criticisms. In addition, the test was observed, recorded, pictured, and filmed by around 30 scientists, engineers, professors, and journalists.

    Early first reports can be seen here and here. Details and conclusions on the success of the test will have to wait the publication of reports in the following days. But all early indications are that the test went well. The e-cat was reported by observers to have run in “self-sustaining mode”, that is, no input energy while continuing to generate output energy, for 4 straight hours. All of this leads up to the scheduled installation and demonstration of a 1MW generation version of 52 e-cats tied together at the end of October.

    To summarize what makes the e-cat important or supremely interesting:

    1. It is very likely based upon the same phenomenon reported by Fleishmann and Pons from Utah in 1989 which was labeled “cold fusion” and led to their being discredited largely ruined professionally. They may end up labeled as “geniuses” yet.

    2. It is a small physical device in its current form, which generates up to 27 KW of power while transmuting a very inexpensive element, nickel, via exposure to hydrogen, into other elements, mostly copper but also iron and other elements. No possible chemical reaction could generate that much power in so little space. Earlier indications are that 1 gram of nickel in the e-cat generates as much heat as 517 kilograms of oil. Or in other terms, a bit of the element Nickel the size of a US 5 cent piece (aka a nickel), can generate as much energy as 5 barrels of oil. Or yet another way it has been stated: 100g (3.5 ounces) of Nickel can generate 10kW of power in an e-cat for 6 months. And Nickel as an element is extremely abundant on the earth and very inexpensive.

    3. When this process of nickel transmutation occurs, there is a small amount of low energy radiation that occurs during the process that is easily blocked with a modest amount of shielding, but there are no dangerous radioactive by-products afterwards.

    4. This process has to be some type of nuclear phenomenon or some type of atomic level process related to some strangeness of Quantum Mechanics. There is no accepted theory at this point that fully explains what is going on (assuming that this test proves something actually is going on). There are a variety of competing ideas at this point.

    5. NASA has been investigating LENR reactions for a while. NASA scientist Dennis Bushnell recently stated:


    The temperature you can get out of [LENR] is interesting,” Bushnell said. “We’ve had to be careful [in our research in] terms of the energetics. I don’t think there is a power [limitation] problem. I think the problem now is of raw courage to look into something that is new. We’ve been fortunate to have a center director at Langley that has the courage to support us to do this. We’ve been at it for three or four years.

    6. Rossi has turned out to be quite a character. He claims that since his business partner (Defkalion of Greece) could not come up with money to fund the 1MW demonstration reactor, Rossi sold his own house and has funded the final stretch of development with that money. So – we have drama.

    So now we await the reports of the scientists from today’s test. And we await the 1MW plant demonstration at the end of October.


    :D It keeps getting better.
     
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    A critical report of the test was released and translated from Italian into English here:
    http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3284962.ece/BINARY/Test+of+E-cat+October+6+(pdf)

    The accuracy of the measurements during this test must be considered fairly low.
    Still, the measurements should lead to the conclusion that this model of the E-cat produced heat at a power of at least 2 to 3 kilowatts in self sustained mode, in this case supposedly with only one of three reactors inside the casing in operation.
    As a heat exchanger was used in this set up, steam quality had no importance for the calculation.
    The self sustained mode that went on for over three hours, also seemed extremely stable and showed no measurable sign of weakening.
    It can also be noted that after three and a half hours of self sustained operation water could still be felt boiling inside, putting a hand on top of the insulated casing. The surface temperature of the insulation was then between 60 and 85 degrees centigrade, meaning that a significant heat loss must have decreased the power output through the steam and the heat exchanger.
     
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    You are right, this is not some crank doing silly things in a garage, it is a bunch of cranks doing sill things in public and selling it to gullible idiots.
     
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    And you assert this contrary to the well documented observations of scores of physicists, engineers and journalists based on....what?

    Your normalcy bias eating you up?

    The hard numbers are there; this stuff works, and even if it is a fraud, then whatever Rossi is using for a fraud is itself a major discovery considering the amount of energy it has put out over nearly 4 hours. The energy output came from the unit while it was isolated from any outside energy input. That means it was generating energy somehow, and however that is, it is huge.

    Dont be ridiculous with your knee jerk dismissals.
     
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    Nyteknik a highly read Swedish technical magazine published its review of the demonstration last thursday in Bologna.

    TV: New test of the E-cat enhances proof of heat - NyTeknik

    This is the same magazine that Wikipedia quotes as both being a harsh critic/skeptic of E-cat and also an involved partner in the talk section, lol.
     
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    I would assert that it you claimed thousands saw it happen.

    They are not allowing anyone to actually examine what they call the "core," until they do, and let other people build their own device for testing, it is a scam.
     
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    You -- and I --- have NO idea what's happening here. The fact that it is "isolated" from other energy sources is pure bunkem. There are metals, liquids, other ingredients creating chemical exothermic chemical energy.

    Could it be important? Perhaps... If you want to build a consumable battery.. I can take a laptop computer drop it in a bucket of water and generate heat energy for 4 hours. And "transmuting nickel into copper" sounds like 14th alchemy to me..

    Hold your horses -- get the facts from peer reviewed reports and get back to us.. So I can eat crow...
     
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    I will join you in that dish, if we get something that works.
     
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    I'll get the deep fryer ready.. Do you prefer a Chardonay or a Merlot to go with that?
     

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