End the Politicization of Science

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    And the petition:
    End the War on Science

    Greetings,

    We, the undersigned, believe public policy decisions are best made under the guidance of scientific inquiry and factual reason, not politics.

    We petition the international community to end the politicization of science, by taking the following actions:

    • Declare that good policy comes from informed decisions based on facts.
    • Support scientists and engineers running for public office.
    • Bring serious scientists together to solve the most challenging issues through non-partisan technical analysis.
    • Stop exploiting differences in public opinion on science-based issues by playing partisan politics and relying on anti-science views.
    • Pledge to bring an end to invoking misrepresented expertise to justify a course of action.
    • Minimize interaction with advocacy groups that increasingly rely on anti-science experts to justify their issue stance.


    To further show our passion for this cause, we pledge to spend five minutes today discussing this issue with a friend or a stranger. It is our belief that it is only through factual, non-partisan dialogue, can we fight against the politicization of science, and create a more informed world!

    [Your name]​
    [Emphasis added]

    FEDERATION OF AMERICAN SCIENTISTS

    What a damn good idea.
     
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    I think petitions are like farting in the wind. And that thought is not very scientific.
     
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    "Declare that good policy comes from informed decisions based on facts"

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    ......come on, really?
     
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    Don't let rdean see this! :eek:
     
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    Booger!!!

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    I wonder if the Federation of American Scientists realizes that ending the politicization of science would have to include the end of government funding of research?

    I mean really, politicians are not going to fund something they do not expect to get a return off of.

    Have they thought about that?

    Immie
     
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    The decision to send a man to the moon was really a political decision, a decision elucidated in a speech by President John F Kennedy. Was it a poor decision, to set and then accomplish this goal? I suspect that a non-partisan panel of scientists (back in the 1960's) would not have assigned such a high priority to the manned spaceflight program that culminated in a moon landing. They would have directed more funds into basic research.
     
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    That is basically what I am saying.

    If the AFoS wants to end the politicization of science, they would risk losing much of their funding.

    Personally, I agree with them, politics and science mix about as well as religion and politics but government funding of science goes a long way to scientific advancement. Government will sponsor research into areas that do not appear to be profitable in order to promote research into fields that may some day prove useful i.e. stem cell research.

    Immie
     
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    Kind of like the grant for the research into an odd group of materials called semi-conductors.
     

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