'End-of-life' provision to be dropped from bill

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    From your link:

    Now, please tell me what is wrong with allowing people to VOLUNTARILY discuss options with their doctors? Additionally, please explain how this at all corrolates to Sarah Palin's bald face lie about "death panels"?
     
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    This is like beating a dead horse: your side gave up on this one.

    Perhaps there was smoke, and fire.
     
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    It's a moot point and has been debated ad nauseum, but there is nothing wrong with "allowing people to VOLUNTARILY discuss options with their doctor". They do that now. The provision was unnecessary, unless they had ulterior motives.
     
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    Meaning?
     
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    [quoteThe provision was unnecessary, unless they had ulterior motives.][/quote]

    How do those WITHOUT health insurance do this now?
     
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    How many people over 65 do you imagine are not covered by either Medicare or Medicaid?
     
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    The provision in the bill was for Medicare Insurance to pay for this counseling IF YOU WANTED IT is what I had read, once every 5 years....if the Senate took it out of the bill then Medicare will not pay for it once every 5 years, simple as that....

    care
     
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    No big deal.

    It was a minor part of the overall bill, anyway.

    So now people won't get the lecture telling them how to control what happens to them if they become comotose or brain dead.

    Now the medical staff will decide whether or not to do heroic efforts to keep them alive, instead of the partient while they're still in control of their own lives.

    Ironically, by lying bout this small part of the bill, the idiots actually end up giving strangers control over the lifes of the patients, if the partients are not smart enough to make those decisions while they're still cogent.

    Nice work, hysterics.
     
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    Yep, the same people that wanted to keep a woman hooked up in a living hell for a century, even though her brain was mush, win the day.
     

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