Eli vs Peyton

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    In comparing the two brothers, there is no way statistically that Eli is in his brothers league. When you look at yardage thrown, TDs to Ints, QB ratings and four league MVPs, Peyton is a top 5 QB of all time.

    But Peyton has always had teams he could not beat. In College, he could not beat Florida. Spurrier got in his head. In the pros, he could not beat New England. Bill B had his number.

    For a dozen years, Indianapolis was a favored team to win at the start of the season. Once the playoffs started, the Colts were almost always a top seed and favored to win. Peyton never seemed to come up big.

    Eli and the Giants were never favored to win anything. Eli came up big in big games and carried teams that were far from great to two championships. Where Peyton has been an underachiever with the teams he played for, Eli has been an overachiever

    Eli also has something Peyton doesn't........Historic wins
    Beating an 18-0 team with a last second game winning drive is perhaps the most historic win in all of football
    Repeating it against the same team is also historic.

    There is no single win in Peytons career where he had a monster drive in a huge game to win. No unbelievable play where he came up big in crunch time.

    In the Manning gene pool, Peyton got most of the raw talent. Eli got most of the heart.
     
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    Don't get carried away. Eli is great, but payton maybe the best ever. The colts would have been contenders with Payton, without him they're the worst team in the NFL. It's really no contest.
     
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    It is a team game not an individual game. You could have superman out there as QB but if you do not have receivers who can catch the ball ...

    If you do not have defense that can stop the other team you always be at the mercy of them.

    If your punt returner drops a punt on the 10 yard line with 30 seconds to go and you lose the game does that make your QB a bum instead of great?

    Marino never had a defense. Peyton, the only Championship he had, the defense stepped up. In last nights game if the Giants had scored with 2 minutes left would they still have won?
     
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    This might mean more coming from an impartial source.
     
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    i agree that there really is no comparison -- peyton is far better. he has always been the whole team. he even makes their defense -- which has never been any good ; they cant tackle or cover ever - look better. eli has the benefit of a much better team -- esp on D around him

    and in the year they won the super bowl, he came up big against NE when they were down as i recall. didint he raly them from way back in that game?

    so if the question is -- you are starting a team and you are picking your first player and you dont know who else will be on your team -- and your choice is paeyton or elo, who do you pick? i cant seriously beleive too many say eli.
     
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    Has Peyton ever won a playoff game against a team that was favored to beat him? Eli has done it seven times

    If I wanted a QB to build my team around, I would take Peyton every time

    If I wanted a QB with two minutes left in a big game.......I would want Eli
     
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    I'm not a fan of either of the Manning boys, but I can't disagree with rightwinger's analysis. Their daddy did one hell of a great job.
     
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    I'll take Eli any day of the year after this latest superbowl victory.Also Peyton is more like Dan Marino in the same way that like Marino,puts up impressive numbers but chokes in the big game.Sure Manning won the superbowl but then again look at who he was facing when he won that superbowl.The Chicago Bears with journeyman Rex Grossman at quarterback.:lol: It was the defense that got the Bears as fas as they did that year.They carried them there.Their defense and Hester their amazing special teams players got them that far that year.

    Oh and you can forget it that Peyton had to play great against a really great defense to win that game because Grossman showed his TRUE colors in that game that he sucks as a quarterback being way off target on his throws in that game.The Bears because of Grossman, had the ball so very little that way too much pressure was put on the Bears defense to hold the colts offense that day .When your on the field all day long like the bears defense was that day,eventually your going to wear out and get tired and not be able to stop an offense after a while.I dont care how good a defense you are.you cant expect them to hold them off forever being on the field all day long like they were that day.so that wasnt really much of a test for Manning that day having to face a tired and deflated defense in the second half.

    Once Peyton Manning had to face a REAL quarterback who was good in the superbowl in Drew Brees,he could not win.Eli on the other hand has faced a future hall of famer TWICE in the superbowl and has won both times.So I'll take Eli in a big game any day of the year over Peyton.
     
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    Peyton is always favored cause he appeared to be THAT good. Doesn't mean he should have been favored. People say Brady has done more with less than maybe anybody but in reality Peyton has.
     
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    Has Peyton ever won a playoff game against a team that was favored to beat him? Eli has done it seven times

    If I wanted a QB to build my team around, I would take Peyton every time

    If I wanted a QB with two minutes left in a big game.......I would want Eli


    That is why I would take Eli over Peyton as well.
     

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