Earth: Operator's Manuel and Climate Change

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    EARTH - The Operators? Manual (E-TOM)

    EARTH: The Operators' Manual : PBS

    Senate Republicans introduce bill to defund NPR, PBS

    I'm watching "Earth: Operator's Manuel". Amazing, the time lapse video of glaciers over years. Some have shrunk so much, the cameras had to be moved.

    The cycles of the earth's orbit and the rising temperature from the sun are all studied and the data applied. The sun gets 10 degrees warmer every 1 billion years.

    Volcanoes don't burn rocks. Instead, rocks are "melted" so they add between 1/50 and 1/100 times as much as humans do. Because people "burn" and not "melt".

    How do they know? Because samples of the atmosphere are trapped in the ice. Also, there are different kinds of CO2. Scientists can tell the difference between the type of CO2 that comes from volcanoes and what comes from burning fossils fuels and what ever else burns.

    Our military employs scientists so they know that climate change is happening. The US Military is the largest user of energy in the US. They scientists they employ are working to move our military away from fossil fuels.

    When I watch shows like this, put together by scientists using evidence, I understand why Republicans are desperate to defund these sources of public knowledge and slash education.
     
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    Did the scientists explain what the actual evidence is that connects CO2 with the actual temperature change? I'm guessing no since they've not done it yet anywhere else.

    With the ongoing increase in education spending and the ongoing increase in teachers' incomes and the ongoing increase in the administative costs of education, one might expect an ongoing increase in the outcomes of the programs planned, constructed and implemented by the educational complex.

    Instead we see that the outcome is reduced test scores and reduced standing internationally of our students in relation to other industrialized countries.

    Republicans don't need to "slash education". The education industry has already done that. AND they've done it with increased funding. Seems like they could contiunue to produce falling results with decreased funding.

    Is it possible that if funding goes in the opposite direction that results go the other way, too?
     
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    Vostok Ice cores shows that CO2 increases FOLLOWS temperature increases by 800 years...this modern ManMade Global Warming CO2....it's just...different, its not like other CO2 molecules
     
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    Please, go to college, take a critical thinking class, pretty please. The Gop is not responsible for all the bad things in the world; the Dem s helped them.
     
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    Just saying something doesn't make it true. At least post a link to whatever it is you just "made up".
     
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    Did the scientists explain what the actual evidence is that connects CO2 with the actual temperature change?

    Is that a serious question?

    Instead we see that the outcome is reduced test scores and reduced standing internationally of our students in relation to other industrialized countries.

    When you have half the country wanting to teach "magical creation" as an alternative to "science", then, yes, our educational system has problems. Only 6% of scientists are Republican. Red States are filled with "Bible Colleges" and other institutions of lower learning. Hearing right wingers explain science and complain about "education" is "hilarious". Really, it's "hilarious". Where do most of the dropouts come from I wonder? Hmmm. Gov statistics are the easiest to find.
     
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    No they cannot.

    Without watching the show I am going to guess that they can study the particulates in the trapped atmosphere and make educated guesses about things, but CO2 from a animal breathing out is identical to the CO2 that comes from burning a piece of coal. It all contains one atom of carbon and two of oxygen.

    Ever watch TLC or Discovery Channel? They show the same kinds of shows, and don't get any money from the government. Why should we keep funding them simply because you watch them on PBS? Especially if they tell you that scientist can determine where CO2 comes from.
     
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    Yea, scientists always "guess". This is why YOU need to go back to school:

    Carbon isotope analyses proved to be a very useful technique for identifying the source of CO2.

    http://arblast.osmre.gov/downloads/Mine Gases and Dust/Balbassare Isotope Paper.pdf

    What is wrong with you people? You sit in front of the Internet. Take a minute to "look it up". Oh, wait, I forgot. I'm sorry. You don't believe in science because it's really a "faith". My bad.
     
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    Who is Manuel?
     

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